The Great ‘Harsh Words’ and Railing Debate?

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ERRATA:  I have since publishing this article repented of vulgar speech, brawling, etc or anything that brings a reproach upon Jesus Christ and the Gospel.
See confession video HERE>

by John McGlone

We hosted  a formal debate at the Fall SOAPA Conference in Atlanta, GA.  It was a struggle to say the least and not as ‘Great’ as I had hoped and prayed for.  I think overall the most of the debate went well. Unfortunately, due to my lack of good moderation and some intemperance of some preachers it ended in a less than ideal way which showed some very bad fruits.   Many naysayers and gain sayers, yet some like myself are encouraged that we at least have the apple cart overturned to inspect our fruit as a group.

JESUS WAS A RAILER, YES OR NO?
     On the face of it, this seems to be a no brainer.  Jesus never railed, and railers obviously are on their way to hell according to the Bible and most Christians understanding of the Bible.  I want to make it clear that the debater, Aden Rusfeldt nor myself believe that Jesus was a railer in the common understanding of the word.  We and a few others hold that Jesus was/is a Holy upbraider, which is also defined in the Strong’s as rail and revile.  This was the basis for the weak argument of, “Jesus was a Railer”.  Personally, I have only understood this idea for about six months prior to the debate. I was encouraged when I saw Aden post a video with the very thing we were thinking and talking about. There is one of the lynch pins in this concept which makes sense and must be explained by opponents of the idea.

Here is a list of passages that use the word RAIL or some form of it:

2 Chr 32:17
He wrote also letters to RAIL on the LORD God of Israel, and to speak against him, saying, As the gods of the nations of other lands have not delivered their people out of mine hand, so shall not the God of Hezekiah deliver his people out of mine hand.

1 Cor 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a RAILER, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Pet 3:9
Not rendering evil for evil, or RAILING for RAILING: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

2 Pet 2:11
Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not RAILING accusation against them before the Lord.

Jude 1:9
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a RAILING accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

1 Sam 25:14
But one of the young men told Abigail, Nabal’s wife, saying, Behold, David sent messengers out of the wilderness to salute our master; and he RAILED on them.

Mar 15:29
And they that passed by RAILED on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,

Luk 23:39
And one of the malefactors which were hanged RAILED on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

Notice that in this list not one of the words is in a positive sense, they are all negative.  So, obviously we can not direct such a negative word or behavior to the Master, Jesus Christ, can we?

Some months before the debate was even thought of or arranged a dear brother of mine brought forth the idea that upbraiding is also defined as rail.  Here is the definition and the verses.

The KJV translates Strong’s G3679 ‘upbraid’ Matt 11:20 in the following manner:upbraid (3x), reproach (3x), revile (2x), cast in (one’s) teeth (1x), suffer reproach (1x).

The KJV translates Strong’s H2778 ‘upbraid’ Judges 8:15   in the following manner:reproach (27x), defy (8x), betrothed (1x), blasphemed (1x), jeoparded (1x), rail (1x), upbraid (1x), winter (1x).

 NOTICE HOW THREE WORDS WORDS ARE TRANSLATED INTO RAIL OR REVILE?

This creates a conflict of understanding especially in the Matt 11 passage as Jesus was never a reviler or railer according to our Scriptural understanding.   For the layman to overcome this conflict from the lexicons, he must conclude that Jesus was not a sinner, but a holy reviler or railer.  These words mean the same thing on different levels, the railing Jesus would have done would have been holy vs. unholy.  This would kind of be like holy hatred vs unholy hatred that God has for sinners vs. men have for men in unrighteous anger.   Keep in mind you can’t ignore it, you must deal with it in some manner or another.  

Mar 16:14
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

 Jas 1:5
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Jdg 8:15
And he came unto the men of Succoth, and said, Behold Zebah and Zalmunna, with whom ye did upbraid me, saying, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thy men that are weary?

Mat 11:20
Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:

The way Br. Aaron dealt with it was to introduce an idea of hypernym vs. hyponym.  Here is a clear picture of the idea

Wikipedia Discussion

According to Aaron’s argument for the hypernym word, UPBRAID,  we have many ambiguous hyponyms:  reproach (3x), revile (2x), cast in (one’s) teeth (1x), suffer reproach (1x).reproach (27x), defy (8x), betrothed (1x), blasphemed (1x), jeoparded (1x), rail (1x), upbraid (1x), winter (1x).

My conclusion is that UPBRAID is synonymous with those words and needs no grammatical gymnastics to try and disprove that Jesus was a Holy upbraider,    This is clearly defined as railing and reviling in the Strong’s.  I must add that this would have to be holy as we know that Jesus did not sin.  This inconsistency is not explained by Br. Aaron’s presentation.  He never dealt with why the word UPBRAID is defined as RAIL & REVILE by both Strong’s and Thayer’s Lexicon.

Harsh Words

I have been preaching open air about 13 years very regularly and the idea of how a preacher should speak and conduct themselves in the open air is a continuing source of controversy.  I have wrestled over this in the spirit for going on four years now. Who can I associate with?  Is there a line or standard that should be held up for all to see?

What do you say preacher?

The Finality of Chaos?
The destructive chaos during the Q&A session was inexcusable on many fronts.  The vendettas, backbiting, and overall lack of self control on the parts of a few were instrumental for making the debate to be utterly vain as some have said.  But, God uses base things to teach us.  I believe this is actually a good thing.  In our home fellowship we have determined through many long discussions to be above reproach as the Spirit leads us, but not to quench the Holy Ghost’s work of holy upbraiding as we see the sinful land where we live is in need of our final warning.  People all over the country and the world are using this base thing to talk out these issues and purifying themselves by faith.

Final Warning
I warn you brethren do not become divisive and discordant between the brethren that work in the open air.   1 Cor 5:11 is used as a tool of the devil by some to sow much harm to the body of Christ.

1 Cor 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

The Greek word Loideros for railer used in this passage is someone who’s heart is bent on the bad motives toward the hearers of the message preached.   Unless you are sure by the Holy Spirit that the person is using attitudes of opprobrium then you must withhold judgment and allow the Lord to judge.

Aaron, used the word opprobrius to bring understanding to what railing means.  But, he failed to take it to the root word;

Opprobrium

OPPRO’BRIUM, noun [Latin ob and probrum, disgrace.]

Reproach mingled with contempt or disdain.

This is the heart of the matter preachers.  Don’t mix your rebukes in the open air for sinners with contempt or disdain.  I would go further don’t mix your counsel to brethren on Facebook with the same contempt or disdain as you would become the man with the log in your eye.

Lastly, and ironically the ones who are trying to bring all of this holy correction on the few, are stepping all over themselves trying to set, keep, and enforce these words standards sowing all manner of discord.

Prov 6:16-19  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,  19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

 

 

Marshall University Hates Us Back and They Are Sorry!

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by John McGlone 09/27/17

This is a letter from one of the ‘loving’ Christians on Marshall University who has seen our preaching these last two days with Br. Zachary Humphrey and myself.  They loved us so much they called us niggahs, threatened us with bodily harm, stole my camera, sexually harassed us, blew multiple saxophones most of the day for both days in an attempt to shut down our freedom to speak and be heard, lied and slandered about us,  and had the audacity to call us bigoted, racist, and unloving.

The charge that one of us said, “…one of the preachers telling a Freshman that she was “asking to be raped”.” is in light of that bisexual exposing her breasts and tempting the preacher with taunting asking if her deserving to be raped.  Zachary called out the bisexual’s wicked fruit of her ‘Christian’ life.   He replied that her immodesty was a way of provoking men on campus to rape her.  I’ll let Zachary give his testimony  if he would like to clarify or if I have miscommunicated.

Below, is the imbalanced view and poor communication of one of the students from Marshall U

A Letter to Marshall University.

Marshall University. I am sorry.

Here at Marshall University, these past few days have been filled with nothing but pure hatred from two street preachers who label themselves as “Christians.” These two street preachers hated each other the first day, but then the second day something horrific happened–they decided to join forces and work together to yell horrible things at the students of Marshall University. I’ve never been so heartbroken in my life after hearing some of the things that were said during this event.

Seeing as I am a Christian myself, some of the stuff they said was biblically accurate, but it is the way in which they portray their presentation that turns people off and make them want to retailiate. Yes, Jesus did die for our sins, but Jesus does not hate us, nor will Jesus EVER hate us. The street preachers have been shouting terrible remarks and making derogatory comments towards not only females but males as well. I even witnessed one of the preachers telling a Freshman that she was “asking to be raped” due to her outfit which consisted of jeans, and a crop top. Both of the preachers also had the audacity to tell the women that were just simply walking by, that they were “whores” and “sluts.” Then five minutes later one of them was preaching about “loving one another,” while minutes before this he was preaching nothing but pure hatred.

During this insane encounter, I also heard one of the preachers say that he doesn’t sin and that after we become Christians we don’t sin at all. Well, as Christians we sin everyday. Sometimes we don’t even realize that we sin, but we do. He was also pointing out the flaws and imperfections of students as they were walking by. As Christians, we are in no place to judge our peers. The only person who can judge us is God, the only perfect person to walk this Earth.

Yesterday as I was walking through campus I heard multiple people say “This is why I hate Christianity.” Well I have three words for you: I am sorry. I am so unbelievably sorry that you have to witness these horrific things being said to you from people who are claiming to be so called “Christians.” Yes, I am a Christian, but I will never hate you or say such terrible things to you. In the bible it talks about loving one another, and that my friends is what I am here to do. I will never judge you based upon appearance, religion, sexuality, race, gender, etc. As a Christian, I am supposed to be a caring and loving individual. Marshall University, I just want to apologize if you have ever been hurt by the Christian community, or anyone who claims to be a “Christian.” It’s very possible that I may or may have not been that person to hurt you, but this is my God. This is my religion. This is what I live for. Therefore, I am sorry if you have been hurt by our community. Just please know that as Christians, we are not to judge or hate anyone.

In a weird but wonderful way, Marshall University is coming together and joining forces to tell people that what they are saying isn’t Christianity. It’s amazing to see the Sons and Daughters of Marshall standing up for what they believe in, and doing it so passionately.

My God is a loving, generous, and caring Father, whom I am very thankful for. He died for me knowing that I might not ever want him, but he still loved me anyway. To me, that right there is something live for.

Luke 23:3 ESV– And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

Body of Christ or Bride of Christ? by John McGlone

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09/19/17 by John McGlone

I have gathered together differing resources; videos, audios, pdf documents, etc. to bring to light this question which has been on my heart and mind for some time. I ask myself, “If we are the body of Christ, then how is that the same body as the Bride of Christ?” If it is different bodies, then who is the Bride that Scriptures speaks of over and again? The Word teaches that it was and is Israel.  As I began to research this some months ago I got confused by the differing views especially Dispensationalism. When I recently heard and read Bob Enyart’s teaching in these audio and pdf links below, regarding Israel being the bride the spiritual white flag of surrender went up.

I think the Apostle Paul in Rom 11 is very clear about how the Jews were cut off because of unbelief in the Messiah so that the Gentiles may be grafted in.  Yet, the Gentiles are warned not to by haughty or high minded because they could still be rejected for that.

Rom 11:11-36  I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?  13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Could this be the answer I’ve been looking for? Take a listen and let me know your thoughts and how this view may be truth according to the understanding of your heart and mind.  God bless you.

BOB ENYART ON THE BODY OF CHRIST &
ISRAEL, THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

 

Download (PDF, 569KB)

 

OTHER RESOURCES WHICH ARE BOTH CONFUSING & DISPENSATIONAL  

08/03/17 Coach Dave Daubenmire spoke of a Hageman and Hageman radio show which featured Pr. David Lankford [Hyper Dispensationalist]  This is what got me started down this inquiry of these ideas.

https://www.facebook.com/dave.daubenmire/videos/10211568462300874/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV34vosjENg

 

Br. Breaker [Semi Dispensationalist] on The Bride of Christ

 

 

URGENT CAMPUS PREACHERS ALERT!! SPEECH LAWS CHANGED

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09/07/17 by John McGlone

Saints of God, we all need to involve ourselves in the process of getting legislation passed in our home states to ensure that freedoms of ; speech, assembly, religion, and press remain effectual on public Universities. There is a pattern of legislation on this issue that has already passed in MO, KY, TN, NC, and CO.

We need to ensure that our lawmakers ADD protections to the legislation for unaffiliated speakers  to be allowed on campus in the public areas to speak.  This would apply to legislation that is being worked on, or even legislation that is already in place if provision was not made for this group of citizens in the first place.

There are many individuals like myself and scores of other Christian campus preachers that will be left out of the opportunity if we don’t address this issue now to our home state legislators.  PLEASE, make this an important and urgent task to contact by phone, letter, and emails to every member of your Representatives and Senators.

Antifa, BLM, GLBTQ, Communist, and other such ‘progressive’ and liberally minded organizations want to foster hatred for these freedoms calling them racist, bigoted, and many other untrue names.  Not only that they are fostering racial divides, riots, destruction, even on our University campuses.  Americans need to stand up and ensure we are heard that we will not allow these groups to rule over the institutions that our hard work and tax monies have built!

Here is  a short instructional video I made to share how we can efficiently contact our Representatives and Senators about this important issue of including the non affiliated or non sponsored speaker on College campuses:

PENDING

Here is what happened last term at Miami University in Oxford, OH when we preached the Gospel for three days on campus.  The Communists and Antifa yelled and suppressed our speech and even threatened and stalked us to our car every day yelling, “Go home, go home, go home…ad nauseum.”

 

 

U.S. News Summary of States Enacting #CampusFreeSpeech Laws Article

 

IN New Campus Free Speech Law

KY New Campus Free Speech Law

NC New Campus Free Speech Law

OH New Campus Free Speech Law PENDING contact your lawmakers!

TN New Campus Free Speech Law

UT New Campus Free Speech Law

VA New Campus Free Speech Law

RACISM the Ugly Cancer in America

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All Lives Matter
by John McGlone 08/17/17

Racism works both ways for and against all manner of colored people groups. I am 7/8ths Irish and 1/8th Cherokee. I am labeled as white though my skin is darker than many ‘black’ people. Both of my ancestor groups have experienced slavery, hardships, famine, pestilence, etc. Yet, I am supposed to feel guilty because of ‘white’ privilege because I have blue eyes, light brown/grey hair and appear to be ‘white’? I know Hispanic and white people who are pretending to be black in skin, thinking, and culture.  I am happily married to a Filipina who is very beautiful and golden in color. Many ask her if she is Mexican and look down upon her and our children because of the scourge of racism within. Most of our children are adopted, they are a mix of; Irish, Filipino, Mexican, Portuguese, and some other races I believe.

So, for Christians how do we deal with these important and sensitive issues of acceptance or rejections by others in or outside the body of Christ? Well, we should do it from the Bible. Here is my favorite anti racist passage in God’s Word.

Act 17:26-31 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

But, then how do we forgive the way our ancestors were treated?  Also, how do we get forgiveness for the way our ancestors treated others? Well, another appeal to the Bible is surely the only answer.

Eze 18:18-21 As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. 19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

 

So, our grandfathers or beyond who may have done heinous things to each other, bear no guilt upon us. Past sins as horrible as they may be must not be applied to our current generation of people. I am not saying we should forget what happened but to learn from it and not blame those of current generation because they are white, or black or red or any other color. This must be taught by every dad in every family in our nation or we will destroy each other. How is destroying our historical monuments and records a way of fixing the problems we  face as a people, nation, and culture?

 

Don’t you know God loves to create using color? Look at the sunsets, or the different birds or flowers or any multitude of creatures in God’s handiwork and try and say God prefers one color over another. Have you oxymoronic ‘Christian’ racists lost your minds?

Why do so many churches polarize into color and cultural groups?  Because, that’s what they are comfortable with, and I suppose it is an insipid form of racism.  The kind that isn’t really seen with burning crosses, white KKK hoods, and lynchings.  This kind of racism that is down low in the conscious of our people and culture.  I remember when I was four or five and our mother had kidnapped us from the home we were placed in.   We were on the run, and our mother in a distraught condition not knowing what to do to get some water and go to the bathroom for her three little white children pulled into a run down trailer park.  I had only seen a black man once before, but this whole neighborhood was full of colored folks.  Dusty roads, but neatly kept homes, about dusk our car rumbled into the park.  My mom stopped and spoke to a young black woman with some children on her porch.  The lady got some nice cold water for all of us from her cooler.  I have never forgotten that act of kindness for a bunch of poor ‘white’ children from that woman.  Why can’t we just see the value of humans beyond the % of melanin in their skin?  Like we say in the open air preaching, it’s not about skin, it’s about sin!  So, how does the bad of one person’s acts negate the good that another does?  It doesn’t, we simply are tempted to lump people together if we have a traumatic experience.
I thought that I would touch on Martin Luther’s writing, “The Jews and their Lies.” to expose how even a patriarch of the Protestant Christian movement can be so corrupted by racism.  Here from that book the following :

Final excerpts, from pages 268 to 272, horrifically prefigure Hitler and the National Socialists as Martin Luther describes what should be done to the Jews:

“First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them… Moses… would be the first to set fire to the synagogues and houses of the Jews.”

“Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed… Instead, they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn…”

“Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings… be taken from them.”

“Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life…”

My German friend stood among the stacks reading, sweating, and translating faster until, under his breath, he began reading only in German. We both noticed his hands shaking. While we had heard accusations of Luther’s anti-Semitism, the extent of the actual hatred horrified us both. Luther’s suggestions continued:

“Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the country-side… Let them stay at home.”

“Sixth, I advise… that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them…”

Then Luther adds, “let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., compute with them how much their usury has extorted from us, divide this amicably, but then eject them forever from the country.”

This filthy racism against the Jews is unwarranted and forbidden directly by New Testament teachings.  Check the mysterious wisdom of God as He uses the Apostle Paul to instruct believers not to hinder from brotherhood or hate the natural branch the Jews.

Rom 11:18-36 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

I would like to deal with how certain gang, Muslim, or other racists cultures affect our culture.  Gangster rap with all of it’s hideous lyrics which promote rape, drinking, drugs, dealing, greed, brawling, murder, and gang culture in general are an abomination that the black Christians need to deal with in their own communities.  To the Muslims, I call you out of your hypocritical religion that won’t rebuke the jihadi but will rebuke the intolerance of westerners to accept your religious terrorism.  To the racist; KKK, Black Hebrew Israelites, Alt right, alt left monsters you will give an account to the God of the Bible who made every color of mankind that you hate so much.  Why do Christians have to warn their families, friends, and even enemies?  Because you have a moral duty to warn your earthly fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, brothers, sisters, and cousins.   Well, if you love your neighbor as Jesus taught that would extend beyond your earthly family, even unto the whole world.  The Christian witness to family members and beyond is one of the most difficult things for us to do as the fear of man creeps into our hearts.  See, a blogpost I did on this very idea HERE.

Also, I would like to share a view from Pastor David Manning from Harlem’s ATLAH Worldwide Church on why, “The Confederates were Right Biblically and Constitutionally About Slavery”.

original weblink to video HERE

Another great teaching on racism by Pastor Joe Schimmel from
Blessed Hope Chapel  here:

Lastly, Jesus taught His disciples to forgive 70 X 7, which equals 490 times. Do you really think God meant for us to stop forgiving at the 491st offense? Aren’t we supposed to forgive our enemies?  Do you believe that teaching of Jesus?  Do you know what color all of us have in common? Blood red, that which was shed on Calvary for the sins of every tribe, tongue, and nation. It’s also the same color that runs through every human being’s veins. What’s the answer? When it comes to race we all need to claim we are the human race, created by a loving and benevolent Creator who wants us to love each other.   This should be apparent to every Christian of every color.  Here is a wonderful word picture of what it will be like before the throne of God with all peoples.

Rev 5:6-14 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. 11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.  14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

KJV Only or Preference?

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Original 1611 KJV Bible Cover Page

by John McGlone 08/17/2017

John 3:16¶ For God so loued þe world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.

English spelling differences in John 3:16 U = V (Example: loued = loved; gaue = gave) y with ‘e’ above it was used as represent the ‘thorn’ character, which means ‘the’) [learn more] nn (Sonne = Son) Other spelling differences V = U (Example: vnto = unto | See John 1:11. As a variation of the same letter, ‘V’ was used at the beginning of a word and ‘U’ within. ) VV = W (Example: svvord = sword) [The V was called a ‘U’, this is why we still call a W a ‘double U’] I = J (Example: Iesus = Jesus | See John 1:17) Long “s” letters look similar to “f” letters (Notice the ‘Old Testament’ type example on the right)  KJVOnlyists make the claim this is only a font issue and nothing else.

I really liked Pastor Britt Williams defense of the KJV only years ago when I was actively preaching and teaching from the NKJV.  He is the senior Pastor of Consuming Fire Fellowship.  It was challenging, yet there are some straws that must be dealt with to answer with assurance.   Here is a link to that four part series on his FB.

Pr. Britt Williams Defense of KJVO part 1

FB Discussion with brothers from Consuming Fire Fellowship on KJVO. 
This occurred after I had become a KJVP using primarily the NKJV for preaching and study.

 

If you liked that video, check this one with 22 errors in the KJV. I’m sure the KJVO will decry that I am a Bible corrector.  Here is the work of a Bible ‘corrector’ that found twenty two problems.  22 Errors

Why PSALM 12:6-7 Is Not a Promise to Preserve Innerrant Scripture.

When I became a believer August 3rd, 1996, I did so by confession at the prompting of the Holy Ghost.  I didn’t have a Bible, a church, or even a witness at the baptism of new birth, save the Comforter whom had been convicting me for about 9 months.  When I got to a local church a week later, they gave me a NIV Bible.  I won’t even start to defend all the problems I have found therein over the course of 21 years.  But, by faith I used this translation for about five years.  I was then introduced to the idea by a faithful brother that the NASB  was a better translation. He gave me a copy and I picked up the mantle of that translation that many reformed brothers will prefer.  A  few years later, our Pastor had changed to the NKJV, and I liked the ease of reading and being able to follow along exactly with what the Pastor was teaching.  Then about 13 years ago, I came to holiness and the Lord led me to immediately pick up the KJV translation.  I then faithfully used that translation; teaching my family, for our children a first reading primer, and open air preaching for about five years.  We by faith moved to NC to join a family in ministry and very shortly after we started out fellowship together, Kerrigan introduced me to the idea that the KJV and NKJV were from the same family of manuscripts.  He also pointed out for the open air work that we would do together, that the lost soul would better understand from a more modern English translation.  We were yoked together preaching the NKJV for about seven years.  Unfortunately, our ministry together had a falling out which was partly due to the differences between the NKJV he had convinced me to use, and what I found in the KJV which contradicted his beliefs about how Matt 18 should be handled, and other issues.   Here is a link to that problem which I believed the KJV was far superior in translation in these key verses regarding the dispute.
 NKJV vs. KJV Confusion
However, there are problems on the other side of the coin which the KJVOnlyists will not deal intelligently with.  I don’t mean I have a problem with the translation, but the idea that the KJV is the ONLY inspired Word of God in the English language.

Some of the Many Major Points of Controversy for the KJV

  • First, Dramatic Text Difference Problem.
  • Second,The KJV 1611 Preface by Translators to the Reader Problems
  • Third, the end of Revelation Conundrum.
  • Fourth, the not Inspired, but Preserved Dilemma.
  • Fifth, the Historic English Bible Record Ante-1611

Firstly, The Dramatic Text Difference Problem
    The 1611 Authorized KJV Bible translation is nothing like what we have in our hands today.  This begs the question if it is the inspired Word of God in the Englifh, it should never have been changed at all.  Here is a link to look at a copy of the original language of that Bible from the OSU server:  Authorized KJV 1611 original manuscript
Can you see how difficult this is to read in the modern English language?  Is this the inspired Word that you study daily and bring to church with you?  My KJVO friends will say, “This is a non issue as it is just changes in fonts.”  But, is that true? The letter ‘J’ didn’t even exist in it’s use at that time so Jesus’ name was spelled Iesus.   So, this wasn’t a font issue but a letter non existence issue.  Then, my point would be that for the KJVO position to be true you would have to read and be able to understand and communicate this language that is almost unrecognizable only a bit over 400 years later.

Original King James Version English

Secondly, The KJV 1611 Preface by Translators to the Reader Problems
    In the preface of the original KJV we see the translators admitting many things which contradict the KJVOnly position.  Here are but a few samples of contradictions from the translators themselves that clearly contradict the ideology of KJVOnlism.  All quotes are from this SOURCE.  Another great resource of the Preface HERE.

Example #1
“Yet for all that, as nothing is begun and perfected at the same
time, and the latter thoughts are thought to be the wiser: so, if we
building upon their foundation that went before us, and being holpen
by their labours, do endeavour to make that better which they left so
good; no man, we are sure, hath cause to mislike us; they, we persuade
ourselves, if they were alive, would thank us.”   pp. 280
If this be so, “…’nothing’ is begun and perfected at the same time.”  Then the KJV translator did not believe they had a perfect translation of God’s Word in the English. 

Example #2
“… so all the while that our adversaries do make so many and so various editions
themselves, and do jar so much about the worth and authority of them,
they can with no show of equity challenge us for changing and correcting.”  pp. 285
If many additions is problematic then the KJV has had the same problem.  If ‘changing and correction’ is a problem then why did they do that themselves in the first place? 

Example #3
Truly, good Christian Reader, we never thought from the beginning that we should need to make a new translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one; (for then the imputation of Sixtus had been true in some sort, that our people had been fed with gall of dragons instead of wine, with whey instead of milk;) but to make a good one better,
or out of many good ones one principal good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath been our endeavour, that our mark. pp. 285
Here the translators are appealing to the idea that there was already a good translation in the English, but they’d like to make it better and they wish the readers wouldn’t hold that against the translation. 

Example #4
They that are wise had rather have their judgments at liberty in differences of readings, than to be captivated to one, when it may be the other.  pp. 288
Here the translators are supposing that is it is wisdom to have liberty to read varying manuscripts that to hold to one specific translation only.  This is exactly the position of them that hold preferences to include the KJV, which is my favorite. 

CAUTION: The page references may not line up with the preface in your KJV Bible if the publisher and printer are not the same as the headnoted SOURCE above. 

Thirdly, a concept right from the very end of God’s Holy writ is the concept that if anyone adds or takes away from the words of the prophecy of this book.  God will heap judgment upon them.

Rev 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Now, the KJVOnlyist will usually say this only applies to the book of Revelation.  But, my view is that this is a warning seal that God has placed on the whole of canonized Scripture.  Well, if there is a warning about future additions or subtractions  and the threats that God has placed there we must induct something from that warning!  The text assumes that there will be those that introduce errors or take away truths from the Bible thus annihilating the view that God’s Word in the KJV text is the ONLY inspired and immutable trustworthy Bible.  What’s a good answer to this point?  Well, I believe that Jesus is the Logos Word of God who is unchangeable and perfect.   He is the epitome of the will of the Father. His teachings can be known, clarified, and walked out by the believer under the instruction of the Holy Ghost.

Fourthly, The Not Inspired But Preserved Dilemma
    KJVOnlyist’s will often take this shell game argument when someone is trying to understand their position.  Sam Gipp, a major proponent of KJVOnlyism, offers this ARGUMENT on his website to answer this question.  In a sense, I agree with Sam, that God inspired the original text, then used men through the ages to bring us the Bible we have today in it’s many various translations.  However, his position goes too far to give the KJV the inerrant status their camp claims.  The forensic evidence against this position is amazing, yet the promoters of it will blindly continue in this doctrine causing discord and division in the body of Christ.  One of my great regrets of flipping between the KJVO position I had in 2009 to NKJV preferred, is that for the last seven years or so is all I have memorized is NKJV.  Now, I find myself going back to the KJV translation memory work and getting confused by the previous eight years work of remembrance of Scripture. It is frustrating to say the least and looks to the open air listeners, like I don’t know the Bible I am preaching from!

Fifthly, the Historic English Bible Records Pre-1611
    Here is a rough outline with historical information from Wikipedia concerning Bibles written before the KJV was translated, published, and printed.  Hotlinks to each footnoted article are provided.  Keep in mind that as much as Wikipedia is mocked these particular articles are very well footnoted.

  1.  Wycliffe’s Bible is the name now given to a group of Bible translations by John Wycliffe. They appeared over a period from approximately 1382 to 1395
  2. Coverdale Bible, compiled by Myles Coverdale and published in 1535, was the first complete Modern English translation of the Bible (not just the Old Testament or New Testament),
  3. Tyndale Bible  generally refers to the body of biblical translations by William Tyndale (c. 1494–1536). Tyndale’s Bible is credited with being the first English translation to work directly from Hebrew and Greek texts.  The original 1611 version of the King James New Testament is reckoned to be nearly 90% unaltered Tyndale.[3] ‘A complete analysis of the Authorised Version, known down the generations as the AV or the King James, was made in 1998. It shows that Tyndale’s words account for 84 per cent of the New Testament, and for 75.8 per cent of the Old Testament books that he translated.’[4]
  4. Coverdale Bible, compiled by Myles Coverdale and published in 1535, was the first complete Modern English translation of the Bible (not just the Old Testament or New Testament), and the first complete printed translation into English
  5. Matthew’s Bible was produced by John Rodgers, working under the pseudonym “Thomas Matthew” for safety, in 1537. It was based on Tyndale’s previously published editions with the addition of his unpublished Old Testament material. The remainder used Coverdale’s translation. It received the approval of Henry VIII.
  6.  Great Bible appeared in 1539, also compiled by Myles Coverdale. The Great Bible was issued to meet a decree that each church should make available in some convenient place the largest possible copy of the whole Bible, where all the parishioners could have access to it and read it at their will.  The version gets its name from the size of the volume. That decree dates 1538, twelve years after Tyndale’s books were burned, and two years after he was burned.
  7. Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James Version by 51 years.[1] It was the primary Bible of 16th-century English Protestantism and was the Bible used by William Shakespeare,[2] Oliver Cromwell, John Knox, John Donne, and John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim’s Progress (1678).[3] It was one of the Bibles taken to America on the Mayflower (Pilgrim Hall Museum has collected several bibles of Mayflower passengers).

I think it is a very shallow philosophical position to take to discount these previous translations when fellow brothers and sisters in Christ were arrested, tortured, and killed for the simple possession of them by the Catholic church and the English government.  But, praise Jesus as much as many men try to take many hammers to the anvil of God’s Word is is not affected, still delivered, and still available to the child like heart and mind that would receive the Word implanted.

In conclusion, after introducing all of this doubt about translations, how can we trust any?  Well, as I have always done when reading Scripture we need to trust and believe what God has said by faith.  The Word of God teaches us that the Holy Ghost will teach us all things.  This being truth then we can deduct that God will correct by the Spirit any errors or lack we find by pointing out other Scripture which will guide us purely and surely.  Did I mention that I regularly; study, teach from, preach from, and promote the KJV translation?   God bless you as you seek the Truth in Christ!

Timothy’s Schuler’s Dispute With Me

 

Confessions of a Log in My Eye? by John McGlone

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Matt 7:1-5

Well here is my confession for the world to see.  A world that for the most part doesn’t understand the term nor apply it properly to their lives.  I have been in a wrestling match in the spirit for the last three years trying to figure out where the line is drawn for believers in relation to open air preaching; speech and behaviors.  The link below you can find what I think is a good defense of harsh words in the open air.  An excerpt from that blog is a standard I set for myself in regards to these important truths.  NOTE: If you are not preaching open air at all, you can’t even begin to judge these matters righteously.  See this blog about all men of God preaching..HERE.

Doubtful Disputes With Cursing Christians?

Setting a Standard of Holiness in Speech and Conduct

With that said, I have wrestled with a standard for which I would govern myself according to the Holy Ghost in my open air work.  So, whatever motivates another brother to preach and how he preaches, I give God glory and thanks the Gospel is preached.  For myself, I must come to a place where I am obeying the Holy Ghost and what He is teaching me in these matters.

Here are some standards I am laying out for myself:
1.  I will use words from the KJV Bible(preferred) in context and applicability.
2.  I will use words that are scientific or biblical in regards to sexual sins or otherwise.
3.  I will limit the use of slang, inflammatory, or non biblical words which may unnecessarily incite hearers.
4.  I will seek to use primarily biblical type parables vs. parables that play to the imaginations of sin.
5.  I will not apply my standard to other people but pray they seek the Holy Ghost for a standard for themselves and walk according to His direction if they have not already done so.
6.  I will seek to check my heart toward the lost, both before, during and after a preach.
7.  I will seek to do the Lord’s will in all things even if men don’t understand or approve.
8. I will seek to be flexible on words or behaviors for weaker brothers or sisters I am working with.  Rom 14

Do you see the red words, ” limit the”? Well, there is my confession that I changed that words, “limit the”, from the word “not”.  This happened after a period of not obeying the original standard of, “NOT”.    As I made my subtle change I wondered about it and told myself, “I’ve simply changed my mind.”  But, why you may ask?  Well, I wasn’t practicing the NOT standard I had put upon myself in the first place.   The Lord have convicted me to return to my original standard. That has been violated numerous times as I reflect back on it.  I have videos that have been posted using terms like; flogging the log, fudge packer, etc that I will practice not saying those types of things again.

Lastly, keep in mind that does not mean that I will not use bible words like; whore, dogs, pigs, bastards, etc. if I am quoting certain passages or concepts.  This would include calling someone out for looking like a whore, acting like a dog, etc. Synonymous words are something I have liberty in as well.  Well, this standard I have set for myself is a good standard to consider for yourselves add and subtract as you follow the Holy Ghost.

I am adding a point #8 which has come up a few times in working with groups of believers. I don’t want to stumble anyone, yet shouldn’t they apply the same standard to me and others that believe the way we do?   I will also add if it is just too much too bear that splitting off to ease the conscience of the others is an option as well.

Why critique another man’s ministry call him a heretic, gossip about him, and then try and influence people away from standing with the truth of things God hath said?  Ironically, most of these men and women do this without ever speaking to the object of their disdain, the open air preacher.   Isn’t that sowing discord among believers even if you don’t consider them a brother?   What if they are and your doubt is causing the problem in the first place?  Doesn’t God hate that?  Prov 6:16-19

Pro 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


Just War Theory – Defended by James Webber

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Introduction by John McGlone

    I am privileged to know a wonderful soldier of the Lord, James Webber only through the internet and some important interpersonal counsel he labored with me a few years ago.  I am thankful for the many decades of work he has labored for the lost and to edify the saints over many decades of his colorful life of open air ministry.  I have for a few years questioned my hyper pacifism that I held to for a season of about seven years.  I have labored to study this issue and though I am not in complete agreement with St. Augustine and his just war theory, James sure helps me understand some important points in his following dissertation.

I am a patriot and love my countrymen and country. Some background on me, I have a family that is steeped in past proud military traditions.  On my father’s side of the family; my father was a Marine for four years earning Staff Sgt before getting out after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.  My grandfather was a waist gunner in a B-24 stationed with the 8th Air Force in England during WWII.  He was shot down by Anti aircraft fire on Jan 7th, 1944.  Most of the crew bailed out except the tail and ball turret gunners, and my grandfather.  The SS gestapo shot and killed them as they exited the downed aircraft.  They were not known for taking POW’s who were injured in the fighting.  My great grandfather was an infantry man in WWI in the south of France in 1917.  He survived the war.  My great great grandfather was a Colonel in the CSA part of the Tennessee Volunteers killed at Rocky Top, TN.  My matriarchal side of  my family I only know of  a great uncle who has retired from the U.S. Coast Guard service as an Admiral.  I served 21 years in the U.S. Navy as a Boatswains Mate, Quartermaster, and Signalman retiring in 2001 as a Chief Quartermaster.  I served on five different warships, have four rows of medals, campaign ribbons, unit awards.  I spent upwards of 15 years stationed aboard ship, 12 of that actually either deployed overseas or underway training to go overseas.  So, needless to say, I was a patriot to the core. Sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. 

I see many forces at work to try and dismantle our system of government; Communists, Muslim Sharia, Antifa, BLM, illegal immigration, homosexual agenda, political corruption to the nth degree, etc.  I believe that God has blessed us with such abundant resources and responsibility.  We should use that responsibility to go with His Word into all nations. We should care for the widow, and orphans, keeping ourselves unspotted from the world.  Jam 1:27   I spent 21 years in the U.S. Navy, defending our Constitution as a primary motive when I joined. It was an ideology that matured me into a man.
Here are past views I’ve held: SEMIPASSIVE   HYPER PASSIVE

Just War Theory Defended
by James Webber

I think all Christians should be Peaceful people but capable of Implementing retributions and Justice as needed.

{Note: Particular Scriptural verses or topics are not always balanced when they are written.}

God’s actions, in relationship to killing humans.
GOD= Father- {Son, Jesus} – Holy Spirit

Point #1 God is Not Always Passive

God drowns everything on earth, except Noahs ark. Genesis 19:7:22
God Killed people and destroyed cities. Genesis 19:12-26
God kills all the first-born of Egypt. Exodus 12:29
God drowned the entire Egyptian army. Exodus 14:27
God had 3000 religious men destroyed. Exodus 32:19-28
God consumed with fire an untold number of Israel.
Numbers 16:31-32
God killed Korah and His family. Numbers 16:35
God killed 250 of the leading men of Israel. Numbers 16:35
God killed many Amorites. Josh 10:11
God killed directly killed 50,070. Men 1 Samuel 6:19
God directly killed 70,000 Israelites. 2 Samuel 24:15
God directly killed 185,000 Assyrians. 2 Kings19:35
God directly killed Ananias and Saphira. Acts 5:1-11
God directly killed king Herod Agrippa. Acts 12:21-23
God directly kills one-third of all mankind.
Revelation 9:15-17
God throws all whose names are not written in the Book of Life into the Lake
of Fire. Revelation 20:11-15

Point #2 Gods Attitude on War and Killing Revealed Within the Scriptures.

DR. A. E. WILDER-SMITH, Professor of medicine holding three doctorate degrees, and author or co-author of over fifty publications: …we ought never dare to state that there is a different God in the Old Testament to the One revealed in the New, on the basis that the Old Testament reveals a God of judgment and the New Testament a God of love. Love and judgment are present in both Testaments. Man’s Origin, Man’s Destiny (1974), p. 179

Deuteronomy 7:2-3
and when the LORD your God shall deliver them before you, and you shall defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. 3“Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, or shall you take their daughters for your sons.
Deuteronomy 7:9-10
“Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His loving kindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments; 10 but repays those who hate Him to their faces, to destroy them; He will not delay with him who
hates Him, He will repay him to his face.
Deuteronomy 7:24-26
“And He will deliver their kings into your hand so that you shall make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them. 25) “The graven images of their gods you are to burn with fire; you shall not covet the silver or the gold that is on them, nor take it for yourselves, lest you be snared by it, for it is an abomination to the LORD your God. 26) “And you shall not bring an abomination into your house, and like it come under the ban;
you shall utterly detest it and you shall utterly abhor it, for it is something banned.
Deuteronomy 20:13
“When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword.
Deuteronomy 20:17
“But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the LORD your God has commanded you,
Psalms 5:5
The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity.
Nahum 1:2
A jealous and avenging God is the LORD; the LORD is avenging and wrathful. The LORD takes vengeance on His adversaries, and He reserves wrath for His enemies.
Exodus 15:3
“The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is His name.
2 Corinthians 5:11
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Point#3 God is NOT a Pacifist

What we have shown so far is, God is not a PACIFIST. We also see the Bible
speaking using Warfare terminology.
If Jesus was against Just Wars and was truly a Pacifist by Nature, I am sure He would not have used Warfare terms to express Biblical truths.
Luke 14:31 31
“Or what king, when he sets out to meet another king in battle, will not first sit down and take counsel whether he is strong enough with ten thousand {men} to encounter the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
1 Corinthians 14:8
For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
Luke 11:21-23
“When a strong {man,} fully armed, guards his own homestead, his possessions are undisturbed; 22) but when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied, and distributes his plunder. 23) “He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.
Romans 13:12
The night is almost gone, and the day is at hand. Let us therefore lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Ephesians 6:11
Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil: Breastplate, Shield of faith, Helmet of salvation, Sword of the Spirit
1 Corinthians 9:7
Who at any time serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard, and does not eat the fruit of it? Or who tends a flock and does not use the milk of the flock?
Philippians 2:25
But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger and minister to my need;
2 Timothy 2:3
Suffer hardship with {me,} as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:3-4
Suffer hardship with {me,} as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4) No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier.
Philemon 1:2
and to Apphia our sister, and to Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in your house:
2 Corinthians 6:7
in the word of truth, in the power of God; by the weapons of righteousness for the right hand and the left,
Matthew 12:20
“A battered reed He will not break off, and a smoldering wick He will not put out, until He leads justice to victory.
1 Corinthians 15:54
But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “Death is swallowed up in victory.
2 Corinthians 10:3
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
Revelation 2:16
‘Repent therefore; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. And the dragon and his angels waged war,
Revelation 19:10-16
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” 11) And I saw heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and He who sat upon it {is} called Faithful and True; and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12) And His eyes {are} a flame of fire, and upon His head {are} many diadems; and He has a name written {upon Him} which no one knows except Himself. 13) And {He is} clothed with a robe dipped in blood; and His name is called The Word of God. 14) And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white {and} clean, were following Him on white horses. 15) And from His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may smite the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
16) And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

Point #4  There Will Be No Peace

War will not always be with us. For now, to insure Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of happiness, war at times is necessary.
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
Love never fails; but if {there are gifts of} prophecy, they will be done away; if {there are} tongues, they will cease; if {there is} knowledge, it will be done away. 9) For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; 10) but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
Isaiah 2:4
And He will judge between the nations, and will render decisions for many peoples; and they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, and never again will they learn war.
Revelations 21:1-5
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer {any} sea. 2) And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3) And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He shall dwell among them, andvthey shall be His people, and God Himself shall be among them, 4) and He shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there shall no longer be {any} death; there shall no longer be {any} mourning, or
crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” 5) And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” (NAS)

Point #5 War Accepted
Yet, Jesus seems to accept war as a part of the world system Matthew 24:6,
and his followers who were soldiers were not condemned Acts 10.
Soldiers were recognized as some of the heros of the faith Hebrews:11:32-34.
Hebrews 11:32-34
And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, 33) who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed {acts of} righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, 34) quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

Point #6
Some say there is no evidence of a single Christian soldier in the Roman army
from the NT times until A.D. 170. But this can easily be explained, by realizing in order to become a soldier you had to pledge allegiance to their gods. In addition, Christians were being killed for their faith, And had no Nation, of their own. By the third and forth century things changed as a result of Augustine’s, Just War theory. Since then, War has been accepted by almost all Churches, till this very day. The book,”Christian Attitudes Toward War and Peace”, by Roland H. Bainton, pp. 95-98 spells out Augustine’s theory of just war.
1. A just war must be just as to its intent, which is to restore peace. Augustine wrote the following to Boniface: “Peace should be the object of your desire. War should be waged only as a necessity and waged only that through it God may deliver men from that necessity and preserve them in peace. For peace is not to be sought in order to kindle war, but war is to be waged in order to obtain peace. Therefore even in the course of war you should cherish the spirit of a peace maker.” –Augustine said every effort should be made to avoid war.
2. A just war must seek to vindicate justice. The following injustices would be motivation for war: –an attempt to destroy the state. –refusal to grant passage through the nation –failure to make amends for wrongs
3. A just war must be motivated by love. That is, the intent must be good. War is not waged because of hatred for the other side, but because love dictates that action be taken to stop evil. A just State is obligated to examine its motives. They must be pure.
4. A just war can only be waged by the duly constituted rulers. The scriptures do not allow the individual to take action, only the duly constituted authorities.
5. A just war must be conducted properly. There should be no wanton violence, profaning of temples, looting, massacres, or conflagrations. Vengeance, atrocities, and reprisals are excluded.
6. A just war must be conducted in a mournful mood. War is a serious thing, and it is undertaken with reluctance and sorrow, not glee, as if it were fun. War should not be entered with joy and singing and thanksgiving.
Jeremiah 48:10
“Cursed be the one who does the LORD’S work negligently, and cursed be the one who restrains his sword from blood.

Point #7 But, Jesus Said..
Matthew 5:39
“But I say to you, do not resist him who is evil; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Matthew 5:44
“But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you
The context of these verses primarily, has to do with the attitude and actions of the Saints, towards the ones that are the enemies of God, that are Persecuting the Saints for their Faith. Theses verses are not dealing with National Security Issues, Police Actions,
or National War.

Point # 8 Governmental Responsibility
Deals with the responsibility of Christians to their Government, and the
honoring of it, as a viable institution.
Matthew 22:21
They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” Then He said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.”
Romans 13:1-7
Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2) Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3) For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4) for it is a minister of God to you for good.
But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. 5) Wherefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for {rulers} are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7) Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax {is due;} custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
Acts 28:19
“But when the Jews objected, I was forced to appeal to Caesar; not that I had any accusation
against my nation.
In Philippians 3:20 Paul says, “But our citizenship is in heaven.” It appears
Paul was aware that His citizenship was in heaven, yet He works within the
Worldly system.
Acts 27:23-24
“For this very night an angel of the God to whom I belong and whom I serve stood before me, 24) saying, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must stand before Caesar; and behold, God has granted you all those who are sailing with you.’
Titus 3:1
Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,
1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,
Proverbs 8:13-15
“The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; pride and arrogance and the evil way, and the perverted mouth, I hate. 14) “Counsel is mine and sound wisdom; I am understanding, power is mine. 15) “By me kings reign, and rulers decree justice.
Daniel 2:21
“And it is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men, and knowledge to men of understanding.
John 19:11
Jesus answered  “You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me up to you has {the} greater sin.”
Revelation 1:5
and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the first-born of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us, and released us from our sins by His blood,
1 Timothy 2:1-2
First of all, then, I urge that entreaties {and} prayers, petitions {and} thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, 2) for kings and all who are in authority, in order that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
Point #9
Israel was to be an example of a Godly government.
Old Covenant VS. New Covenant Question.
NOTE: Exodus 20:13
Has been wrongly translated as “kill” kjv, rather than murder.
The text correctly reads “YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.” Murder is a different word and meaning than to kill. Thou shalt not kill. ‘Killing’ is not what is prohibited, otherwise the judicial infliction of capital punishment, as well as the slaughter of an enemy in defensive war, would be unlawful-in which light these were certainly not regarded by the Israelites in the time of Moses (Exodus 21:14; Deuteronomy 19:11; 31:9). [Lo’ tirtsaach, Thou shalt not commit murder. The verb signifies to slay with premeditation and malice, and is properly rendered by the Septuagint: ou foneuseis.]
from Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary,
NOTE: Exodus 22:2
“If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;” Moreover, (3) God gave mankind permission as a lawful society, to “kill,” or destroy those guilty of capital offenses. We call this today “capital punishment.” We read in,
Genesis 9:6
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.”
The divinely sanction war is important to understand. For later on, God organized and engaged the entire nation of Israel into His army to kill all God’s enemies that He had labeled for destruction. Make no mistake God sanctioned the killing of human life by warfare. Again we read:
Josh 10:40
“So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.” (NIV)
Point #10
Some say: We are all children of God, therefore Killing a fellow child of God has to be wrong. Wrong, We are not all children of God, you are either a child of God or a child of the devil.
I John 3:10
By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
Romans 9:20-23
On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21) Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use, and another for common use? 22) What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23) And {He did so} in order that He might make
known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,
Acts 13:10
and said, “You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord?
John 8:44
“You are of {your} father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own {nature;} for he is a liar, and the father of lies.
Matthew 13:38
and the field is the world; and {as for} the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil {one;}
Galatians 6:3
For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.

Point #11
Some say: “Jesus would never Go to War!”
Wrong!
John 2:15
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
Matthew: 10:34
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. If war is inherently evil, why are soldiers not told so in the New Testament?
• John the Baptist, went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Luke 3:14  Some soldiers were questioning him, saying, “And what about us, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages.”
• In Matthew 8 why did Christ commend the faith of a Centurion but did not call on him to abandon his profession? He told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more.
• Why did Paul avail himself of military protection if it is always wrong to kill? Wasn’t the protection predicated upon the fact that the soldiers would kill those who might try to kill Paul?
• Why is nothing said about Cornelius leaving his profession as Centurion in Acts 10?

Point 12 Patriotism
In discussing Patriotism it is difficult because there are a multitude of possible application, so I will not deal with the obvious mis applications. Any time we place something above God it is wrong whether Patriotism, Golf, TV, Money and so on.
Romans 14:1-2
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, {but} not for {the purpose of} passing judgment on his opinions. 2) One man has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables {only.}
• If you eat Vegetable only you are the weaker Brother.
• If you eat Vegetable and Meat you are the Stronger Brother.
• If you worship God on one day a week you are the weaker Brother.
• If you worship God everyday you are the Stronger Brother.
You see the ones that are limited in their Freedom are consider the weaker
Brothers, and the ones that are able to live in Freedom are the Stronger
Brothers.  The person that can’t be Patriotic is the weaker Brother where as the one that is able to be a good Christian and be Patriotic is the Stronger Brother.
If in fact you see God first and Country second Romans 13, and you attempt to Honor Romans 13
as directed, and Serve your Country, that position is completely in line with our Freedom and the Scriptural examples. Some say, look at the evils in your Country, how can you Serve a country like that, and be Patriotic to it? God looks at His Church and see Evil, and still Loves and Serves it, and is faithful to it. A married Man may see evils within His wife, yet He is still commanded to Love Her. Most Parents Love their
Children even when they do Evil. When People pledge allegiance to the flag, that does not mean they do not have built in restrictions within that allegiance.
Even in a Church, when one pledges allegiance to it, by way of membership, that does not mean, the commitment does not have limits.

IN CONCLUSION:
In Point #1, Jesus is No Pacifist, to the point He will not kill humans or direct other humans to kill humans, In War and otherwise.
In Point #2, We see that The Lord Jesus has always been a warrior throughout history.
In Point #3, We see God uses the opposite of Pacifistic terminology within the Scriptures.
In Point #4, We see Peace will come, just not yet.
In Point #5, Jesus seems to accept war as a part of the world system.
In Point #6, We see most Christians from all faiths have almost always seen War as a tragic necessity at times.
In Point #7, We see, as Christians in rightly dividing the Word of God, We need to make a distinction between individual responsibility’s before God and National responsibility’s before God.
In Point #8, Christian are responsible to their Government.
In Point #9, Israel a Godly example of a Government.
In Point #10, We are not all Children of God.
In Point #11, Jesus came with a sword.
In Point #12, Christian Patriotism can be an indication of one that is stronger in the faith.
True Pacifism, is Anti Self-protection, Anti Self-defense, and Anti John 15:13 “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.” Romans 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.

Blood Covenant of Virgin Sex

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When I was a young buck of a punk, I would often repeat things that I heard my friends say which are really gross to me now. Things like; young enough to bleed, young enough to butcher, that is effed up like an abortion, etc  When looking back on such nonsense I realize how these communications cheapened women, marriage, sex, and family.  I lost my virginity to a whorish girlfriend of one of my ‘good’ friends at that time.  I walked her home to her parent’s apartment on a dreary cold day when my friend wasn’t at school.  Man, I wish I could’ve undone that experience!  I wish I would have had a man of God in my life who would have warned me about whorishness and the spiritual deadliness of laying down with a whore.

Pro 5:3-5 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: 4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

If only a godly man had shared the importance of this Bible verse and many others!

1 Cor 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

The CDC, Center for Disease Control reports that young college age people 18-25 have a 35% chance of contracting a myriad of sexually transmitted diseases.  They range from annoyances to debilitating disease that can cripple, sterilize, or even kill you.  AIDS, Chlamydia, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, are but a few examples of these consequences.  When we preach on the college campuses we will often use the following statement, “1,2,3, STD,  1,2,3, STD,  “1,2,3, STD,  1,2,3, STD,  as we point out students.  They will look at each other, laugh, get embarrassed etc. But, it proves a reality they need to think about before getting in the sack!

As I explained to a young couple just a week ago while on outreach.  That time before marriage is a time to show each other that you have self control to resist each other.  If you can show God and each other that fruit of self control by the power of the Holy Ghost and not even touch each other.  Then you can resist temptations of others that will come along to try and wreck your marriage later on!  If you find one, or the other, or both tempting each other, then you must question yourselves and even consider stopping the courtship for a a season of fasting, prayer, and study on these issues.

1 Cor 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 

For every regretful Christian that would have wished to have done it different in not keeping their wedding bed pure, please share with young couples you know that are planning on marrying.  Young couples in courtship pray  and share it with others.  God bless you as you seek His will for your lives, marriage, and children to be!

I would file this under ‘THE THINGS YOUR PASTOR AND HIS WIFE ARE TOO AFRAID TO TELL YOU.’

👉 “Have you ever wondered why God carefully positioned a membrane of blood in a lady’s sexual opening? It is a tinny membrane that partially or completely covers the opening of the vagina.

It is called the “HYMEN”.

Why would God-Our Maker put a breakable tissue full of blood at the very door of the sexual opening of the female? Why is it so carefully placed at that entrance, like a ribbon tied at the entrance of a new house about to be launched? Why is it filled with blood that spills away when it is broken? Why? Without doubt, the HYMEN IS A GATE! It was God (our creator) who set that blood filled vessel there as a covenant blockage, a sign and a token of a covenant between the bearer and whoever enters into her opening.

Before God, the dis-virginity of a lady is not a casual act of fun. It is a serious covenant struck and confirmed by the blood shed on that day.

This is God’s way of saying, “Whoever enters in to this woman shall only be able to do so by making a blood covenant to be joined to her for the rest of his life, from that point onward.

Little wonder why sexual intercourse was designed by God to take place only and only after the marriage contract is sealed. The one who made the body (the hormones, organs, nerves,tissues, e.t.c)said it in clear terms in 1 Cor.6:13 , “Now, the body is not for fornication”. Anyone who chooses to use the body for fornication must know that he/ she is working directly against God’s plan and there would definitely be a consequence either now or at old age!

There is a spiritual bonding, a supernatural process that takes place in a lady’s heart to the first guy that enters in to her especially at that particular time when the hymen breaks. There is no covenant without blood: this is why the membrane contains enough of it.

As a matter of fact, what happens the first time a lady has sex is not just sex but an immersion and a bathing of the man with her hymen blood to initiate a covenant that is highly recognized in the spirit realm of both light and darkness! The first time this happens just marks her opening day covenant ceremony and each subsequent experience goes on to further ratify and strengthen that covenant or establish another version of it with another person.

Many have washed useless boys with that hymen-blood.

Many have struck irreversible covenants with men that have nothing to do with their destiny.

Many have shared that hymen blood in sexual activity with demon-possessed men while some others have struck such precious covenants with candle sticks fingers of banana etc as they exercised sex with it.

If only they knew, many girls who carelessly allowed themselves to be deflowered in a bid to be among the so called “big girls” would never have done so.

The Bible says it in clear terms: “Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot (through sexual activity) is one with her (1 Cor. 6:16).

This is why many girls are not yet married, yet their spiritual composition is already shattered and imbalanced, because they have mingled their souls with that of different men.

Dear Singles, know today that there is a definite proportion of your virtue that leaves you each time a man enters into you and when that man leaves you, he leaves with it. Just imagine how much of yourself would be lost each time a man enters into you without any properly signed marriage bond or contract.

Sex is a spiritual affair. A giving of yourself to another. All of these things have strong and terrible spiritual implications.

A broken hymen opens you up to the spirit of the man that broke it, any other spirit whatsoever that may have mingled with that man’s spirit, those who have mingled theirs with him and the spirit of any other man that
enters into you thereafter. The fun part is that pre-marital sex is not funny at all. What happens between the lines could be deadly and dangerous.

The very first day a lady, or a man does that there will be spiritual transfer of destiny.

The sin of fornication gives demons and occultist people direct access into your God given destiny of a pure wedding bed and spouse who will always have that moment sealed in their hearts and minds.

Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

So guys, zip up! Girls wise up!! It matters a lot.

BIG THINGS COMES FROM LITTLE THINGS WE DO!!!” – Anonymous

P.S.  Don’t let the sin of fornication lead to murdering your own flesh and blood!  See www.abortionno.org for horrifying videos and pictures of preborn babies.

 

First Church of Sinners

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CMA Festival 2017 This is an Eric Church blasphemy tee that he will surely give an account to the Ancient of Days

“The New Testament knows no salvation while continuing in a state of sinful indulgence. Sin as a manner of life is always referred to in the PAST TENSE in Christians.

1Co 6:11
Such were ( past tense ) some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Eph 2:1
And you were ( past tense ) dead in your trespasses and sins,

Eph 5:8
for you were ( past tense ) formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light.

Tit 3:3
For we also once were ( past tense ) foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another.

Gordon Olson

SINNER or SAINT… It has been said many times by professing Christians ” I’m just a sinner saved by Grace ” It’s sad that the American pastors teaching has confused the masses with such nonsense. What they should be taught is ” We WERE ( past tense ) sinners saved by grace.

The word sinner in the Greek means, devoted to sin, not free from sin, especially wicked.

” In the NT. we are called 61 times ” Saints ” never sinners again. The word holy and Saint comes from the same Greek word ( Hagios ) which means the most holy thing, a Saint.

In 1 Peter 2:9, Peter explains what position the Saints are in.. You are a Chosen Race, a Royal priesthood, a Holy Nation ( in the Greek nation means group of people ) a people for God’s own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

1Co 6:11
Such WERE ( past tense ) some of you; ( sinners ) but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

1 John 3:7-8… Those who practice ( those who do ) righteousness is righteous… ” A SAINT “….
Verse 8… Those who practice ( those who do sin ) sin is of the devil ” A SINNER “.
Scriptures makes it clear the difference between a Saint and sinner.
Practice in the Greek means who do sin or those who do righteousness..

If we value the sacrifice of Jesus Christ’s suffering for our sin on the cross, why do we revive the power of the serpent?