RACISM the Ugly Cancer in America

All Lives Matter
by John McGlone 08/17/17

Racism works both ways for and against all manner of colored people groups. I am 7/8ths Irish and 1/8th Cherokee. I am labeled as white though my skin is darker than many ‘black’ people. Both of my ancestor groups have experienced slavery, hardships, famine, pestilence, etc. Yet, I am supposed to feel guilty because of ‘white’ privilege because I have blue eyes, light brown/grey hair and appear to be ‘white’? I know Hispanic and white people who are pretending to be black in skin, thinking, and culture.  I am happily married to a Filipina who is very beautiful and golden in color. Many ask her if she is Mexican and look down upon her and our children because of the scourge of racism within. Most of our children are adopted, they are a mix of; Irish, Filipino, Mexican, Portuguese, and some other races I believe.

So, for Christians how do we deal with these important and sensitive issues of acceptance or rejections by others in or outside the body of Christ? Well, we should do it from the Bible. Here is my favorite anti racist passage in God’s Word.

Act 17:26-31 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

But, then how do we forgive the way our ancestors were treated?  Also, how do we get forgiveness for the way our ancestors treated others? Well, another appeal to the Bible is surely the only answer.

Eze 18:18-21 As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. 19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

 

So, our grandfathers or beyond who may have done heinous things to each other, bear no guilt upon us. Past sins as horrible as they may be must not be applied to our current generation of people. I am not saying we should forget what happened but to learn from it and not blame those of current generation because they are white, or black or red or any other color. This must be taught by every dad in every family in our nation or we will destroy each other. How is destroying our historical monuments and records a way of fixing the problems we  face as a people, nation, and culture?

 

Don’t you know God loves to create using color? Look at the sunsets, or the different birds or flowers or any multitude of creatures in God’s handiwork and try and say God prefers one color over another. Have you oxymoronic ‘Christian’ racists lost your minds?

Why do so many churches polarize into color and cultural groups?  Because, that’s what they are comfortable with, and I suppose it is an insipid form of racism.  The kind that isn’t really seen with burning crosses, white KKK hoods, and lynchings.  This kind of racism that is down low in the conscious of our people and culture.  I remember when I was four or five and our mother had kidnapped us from the home we were placed in.   We were on the run, and our mother in a distraught condition not knowing what to do to get some water and go to the bathroom for her three little white children pulled into a run down trailer park.  I had only seen a black man once before, but this whole neighborhood was full of colored folks.  Dusty roads, but neatly kept homes, about dusk our car rumbled into the park.  My mom stopped and spoke to a young black woman with some children on her porch.  The lady got some nice cold water for all of us from her cooler.  I have never forgotten that act of kindness for a bunch of poor ‘white’ children from that woman.  Why can’t we just see the value of humans beyond the % of melanin in their skin?  Like we say in the open air preaching, it’s not about skin, it’s about sin!  So, how does the bad of one person’s acts negate the good that another does?  It doesn’t, we simply are tempted to lump people together if we have a traumatic experience.
I thought that I would touch on Martin Luther’s writing, “The Jews and their Lies.” to expose how even a patriarch of the Protestant Christian movement can be so corrupted by racism.  Here from that book the following :

Final excerpts, from pages 268 to 272, horrifically prefigure Hitler and the National Socialists as Martin Luther describes what should be done to the Jews:

“First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them… Moses… would be the first to set fire to the synagogues and houses of the Jews.”

“Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed… Instead, they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn…”

“Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings… be taken from them.”

“Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life…”

My German friend stood among the stacks reading, sweating, and translating faster until, under his breath, he began reading only in German. We both noticed his hands shaking. While we had heard accusations of Luther’s anti-Semitism, the extent of the actual hatred horrified us both. Luther’s suggestions continued:

“Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the country-side… Let them stay at home.”

“Sixth, I advise… that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them…”

Then Luther adds, “let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., compute with them how much their usury has extorted from us, divide this amicably, but then eject them forever from the country.”

This filthy racism against the Jews is unwarranted and forbidden directly by New Testament teachings.  Check the mysterious wisdom of God as He uses the Apostle Paul to instruct believers not to hinder from brotherhood or hate the natural branch the Jews.

Rom 11:18-36 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

I would like to deal with how certain gang, Muslim, or other racists cultures affect our culture.  Gangster rap with all of it’s hideous lyrics which promote rape, drinking, drugs, dealing, greed, brawling, murder, and gang culture in general are an abomination that the black Christians need to deal with in their own communities.  To the Muslims, I call you out of your hypocritical religion that won’t rebuke the jihadi but will rebuke the intolerance of westerners to accept your religious terrorism.  To the racist; KKK, Black Hebrew Israelites, Alt right, alt left monsters you will give an account to the God of the Bible who made every color of mankind that you hate so much.  Why do Christians have to warn their families, friends, and even enemies?  Because you have a moral duty to warn your earthly fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, brothers, sisters, and cousins.   Well, if you love your neighbor as Jesus taught that would extend beyond your earthly family, even unto the whole world.  The Christian witness to family members and beyond is one of the most difficult things for us to do as the fear of man creeps into our hearts.  See, a blogpost I did on this very idea HERE.

Also, I would like to share a view from Pastor David Manning from Harlem’s ATLAH Worldwide Church on why, “The Confederates were Right Biblically and Constitutionally About Slavery”.

original weblink to video HERE

Another great teaching on racism by Pastor Joe Schimmel from
Blessed Hope Chapel  here:

Lastly, Jesus taught His disciples to forgive 70 X 7, which equals 490 times. Do you really think God meant for us to stop forgiving at the 491st offense? Aren’t we supposed to forgive our enemies?  Do you believe that teaching of Jesus?  Do you know what color all of us have in common? Blood red, that which was shed on Calvary for the sins of every tribe, tongue, and nation. It’s also the same color that runs through every human being’s veins. What’s the answer? When it comes to race we all need to claim we are the human race, created by a loving and benevolent Creator who wants us to love each other.   This should be apparent to every Christian of every color.  Here is a wonderful word picture of what it will be like before the throne of God with all peoples.

Rev 5:6-14 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. 11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.  14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

KJV Only or Preference?

Original 1611 KJV Bible Cover Page

by John McGlone 08/17/2017

John 3:16¶ For God so loued þe world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.

English spelling differences in John 3:16 U = V (Example: loued = loved; gaue = gave) y with ‘e’ above it was used as represent the ‘thorn’ character, which means ‘the’) [learn more] nn (Sonne = Son) Other spelling differences V = U (Example: vnto = unto | See John 1:11. As a variation of the same letter, ‘V’ was used at the beginning of a word and ‘U’ within. ) VV = W (Example: svvord = sword) [The V was called a ‘U’, this is why we still call a W a ‘double U’] I = J (Example: Iesus = Jesus | See John 1:17) Long “s” letters look similar to “f” letters (Notice the ‘Old Testament’ type example on the right)  KJVOnlyists make the claim this is only a font issue and nothing else.

I really liked Pastor Britt Williams defense of the KJV only years ago when I was actively preaching and teaching from the NKJV.  He is the senior Pastor of Consuming Fire Fellowship.  It was challenging, yet there are some straws that must be dealt with to answer with assurance.   Here is a link to that four part series on his FB.

Pr. Britt Williams Defense of KJVO part 1

FB Discussion with brothers from Consuming Fire Fellowship on KJVO. 
This occurred after I had become a KJVP using primarily the NKJV for preaching and study.

 

If you liked that video, check this one with 22 errors in the KJV. I’m sure the KJVO will decry that I am a Bible corrector.  Here is the work of a Bible ‘corrector’ that found twenty two problems.  22 Errors

Why PSALM 12:6-7 Is Not a Promise to Preserve Innerrant Scripture.

When I became a believer August 3rd, 1996, I did so by confession at the prompting of the Holy Ghost.  I didn’t have a Bible, a church, or even a witness at the baptism of new birth, save the Comforter whom had been convicting me for about 9 months.  When I got to a local church a week later, they gave me a NIV Bible.  I won’t even start to defend all the problems I have found therein over the course of 21 years.  But, by faith I used this translation for about five years.  I was then introduced to the idea by a faithful brother that the NASB  was a better translation. He gave me a copy and I picked up the mantle of that translation that many reformed brothers will prefer.  A  few years later, our Pastor had changed to the NKJV, and I liked the ease of reading and being able to follow along exactly with what the Pastor was teaching.  Then about 13 years ago, I came to holiness and the Lord led me to immediately pick up the KJV translation.  I then faithfully used that translation; teaching my family, for our children a first reading primer, and open air preaching for about five years.  We by faith moved to NC to join a family in ministry and very shortly after we started out fellowship together, Kerrigan introduced me to the idea that the KJV and NKJV were from the same family of manuscripts.  He also pointed out for the open air work that we would do together, that the lost soul would better understand from a more modern English translation.  We were yoked together preaching the NKJV for about seven years.  Unfortunately, our ministry together had a falling out which was partly due to the differences between the NKJV he had convinced me to use, and what I found in the KJV which contradicted his beliefs about how Matt 18 should be handled, and other issues.   Here is a link to that problem which I believed the KJV was far superior in translation in these key verses regarding the dispute.
 NKJV vs. KJV Confusion
However, there are problems on the other side of the coin which the KJVOnlyists will not deal intelligently with.  I don’t mean I have a problem with the translation, but the idea that the KJV is the ONLY inspired Word of God in the English language.

Some of the Many Major Points of Controversy for the KJV

  • First, Dramatic Text Difference Problem.
  • Second,The KJV 1611 Preface by Translators to the Reader Problems
  • Third, the end of Revelation Conundrum.
  • Fourth, the not Inspired, but Preserved Dilemma.
  • Fifth, the Historic English Bible Record Ante-1611

Firstly, The Dramatic Text Difference Problem
    The 1611 Authorized KJV Bible translation is nothing like what we have in our hands today.  This begs the question if it is the inspired Word of God in the Englifh, it should never have been changed at all.  Here is a link to look at a copy of the original language of that Bible from the OSU server:  Authorized KJV 1611 original manuscript
Can you see how difficult this is to read in the modern English language?  Is this the inspired Word that you study daily and bring to church with you?  My KJVO friends will say, “This is a non issue as it is just changes in fonts.”  But, is that true? The letter ‘J’ didn’t even exist in it’s use at that time so Jesus’ name was spelled Iesus.   So, this wasn’t a font issue but a letter non existence issue.  Then, my point would be that for the KJVO position to be true you would have to read and be able to understand and communicate this language that is almost unrecognizable only a bit over 400 years later.

Original King James Version English

Secondly, The KJV 1611 Preface by Translators to the Reader Problems
    In the preface of the original KJV we see the translators admitting many things which contradict the KJVOnly position.  Here are but a few samples of contradictions from the translators themselves that clearly contradict the ideology of KJVOnlism.  All quotes are from this SOURCE.  Another great resource of the Preface HERE.

Example #1
“Yet for all that, as nothing is begun and perfected at the same
time, and the latter thoughts are thought to be the wiser: so, if we
building upon their foundation that went before us, and being holpen
by their labours, do endeavour to make that better which they left so
good; no man, we are sure, hath cause to mislike us; they, we persuade
ourselves, if they were alive, would thank us.”   pp. 280
If this be so, “…’nothing’ is begun and perfected at the same time.”  Then the KJV translator did not believe they had a perfect translation of God’s Word in the English. 

Example #2
“… so all the while that our adversaries do make so many and so various editions
themselves, and do jar so much about the worth and authority of them,
they can with no show of equity challenge us for changing and correcting.”  pp. 285
If many additions is problematic then the KJV has had the same problem.  If ‘changing and correction’ is a problem then why did they do that themselves in the first place? 

Example #3
Truly, good Christian Reader, we never thought from the beginning that we should need to make a new translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one; (for then the imputation of Sixtus had been true in some sort, that our people had been fed with gall of dragons instead of wine, with whey instead of milk;) but to make a good one better,
or out of many good ones one principal good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath been our endeavour, that our mark. pp. 285
Here the translators are appealing to the idea that there was already a good translation in the English, but they’d like to make it better and they wish the readers wouldn’t hold that against the translation. 

Example #4
They that are wise had rather have their judgments at liberty in differences of readings, than to be captivated to one, when it may be the other.  pp. 288
Here the translators are supposing that is it is wisdom to have liberty to read varying manuscripts that to hold to one specific translation only.  This is exactly the position of them that hold preferences to include the KJV, which is my favorite. 

CAUTION: The page references may not line up with the preface in your KJV Bible if the publisher and printer are not the same as the headnoted SOURCE above. 

Thirdly, a concept right from the very end of God’s Holy writ is the concept that if anyone adds or takes away from the words of the prophecy of this book.  God will heap judgment upon them.

Rev 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Now, the KJVOnlyist will usually say this only applies to the book of Revelation.  But, my view is that this is a warning seal that God has placed on the whole of canonized Scripture.  Well, if there is a warning about future additions or subtractions  and the threats that God has placed there we must induct something from that warning!  The text assumes that there will be those that introduce errors or take away truths from the Bible thus annihilating the view that God’s Word in the KJV text is the ONLY inspired and immutable trustworthy Bible.  What’s a good answer to this point?  Well, I believe that Jesus is the Logos Word of God who is unchangeable and perfect.   He is the epitome of the will of the Father. His teachings can be known, clarified, and walked out by the believer under the instruction of the Holy Ghost.

Fourthly, The Not Inspired But Preserved Dilemma
    KJVOnlyist’s will often take this shell game argument when someone is trying to understand their position.  Sam Gipp, a major proponent of KJVOnlyism, offers this ARGUMENT on his website to answer this question.  In a sense, I agree with Sam, that God inspired the original text, then used men through the ages to bring us the Bible we have today in it’s many various translations.  However, his position goes too far to give the KJV the inerrant status their camp claims.  The forensic evidence against this position is amazing, yet the promoters of it will blindly continue in this doctrine causing discord and division in the body of Christ.  One of my great regrets of flipping between the KJVO position I had in 2009 to NKJV preferred, is that for the last seven years or so is all I have memorized is NKJV.  Now, I find myself going back to the KJV translation memory work and getting confused by the previous eight years work of remembrance of Scripture. It is frustrating to say the least and looks to the open air listeners, like I don’t know the Bible I am preaching from!

Fifthly, the Historic English Bible Records Pre-1611
    Here is a rough outline with historical information from Wikipedia concerning Bibles written before the KJV was translated, published, and printed.  Hotlinks to each footnoted article are provided.  Keep in mind that as much as Wikipedia is mocked these particular articles are very well footnoted.

  1.  Wycliffe’s Bible is the name now given to a group of Bible translations by John Wycliffe. They appeared over a period from approximately 1382 to 1395
  2. Coverdale Bible, compiled by Myles Coverdale and published in 1535, was the first complete Modern English translation of the Bible (not just the Old Testament or New Testament),
  3. Tyndale Bible  generally refers to the body of biblical translations by William Tyndale (c. 1494–1536). Tyndale’s Bible is credited with being the first English translation to work directly from Hebrew and Greek texts.  The original 1611 version of the King James New Testament is reckoned to be nearly 90% unaltered Tyndale.[3] ‘A complete analysis of the Authorised Version, known down the generations as the AV or the King James, was made in 1998. It shows that Tyndale’s words account for 84 per cent of the New Testament, and for 75.8 per cent of the Old Testament books that he translated.’[4]
  4. Coverdale Bible, compiled by Myles Coverdale and published in 1535, was the first complete Modern English translation of the Bible (not just the Old Testament or New Testament), and the first complete printed translation into English
  5. Matthew’s Bible was produced by John Rodgers, working under the pseudonym “Thomas Matthew” for safety, in 1537. It was based on Tyndale’s previously published editions with the addition of his unpublished Old Testament material. The remainder used Coverdale’s translation. It received the approval of Henry VIII.
  6.  Great Bible appeared in 1539, also compiled by Myles Coverdale. The Great Bible was issued to meet a decree that each church should make available in some convenient place the largest possible copy of the whole Bible, where all the parishioners could have access to it and read it at their will.  The version gets its name from the size of the volume. That decree dates 1538, twelve years after Tyndale’s books were burned, and two years after he was burned.
  7. Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James Version by 51 years.[1] It was the primary Bible of 16th-century English Protestantism and was the Bible used by William Shakespeare,[2] Oliver CromwellJohn KnoxJohn Donne, and John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim’s Progress (1678).[3] It was one of the Bibles taken to America on the Mayflower (Pilgrim Hall Museum has collected several bibles of Mayflower passengers).

I think it is a very shallow philosophical position to take to discount these previous translations when fellow brothers and sisters in Christ were arrested, tortured, and killed for the simple possession of them by the Catholic church and the English government.  But, praise Jesus as much as many men try to take many hammers to the anvil of God’s Word is is not affected, still delivered, and still available to the child like heart and mind that would receive the Word implanted.

In conclusion, after introducing all of this doubt about translations, how can we trust any?  Well, as I have always done when reading Scripture we need to trust and believe what God has said by faith.  The Word of God teaches us that the Holy Ghost will teach us all things.  This being truth then we can deduct that God will correct by the Spirit any errors or lack we find by pointing out other Scripture which will guide us purely and surely.  Did I mention that I regularly; study, teach from, preach from, and promote the KJV translation?   God bless you as you seek the Truth in Christ!

Timothy’s Schuler’s Dispute With Me

 

Confessions of a Log in My Eye? by John McGlone

Matt 7:1-5

Well here is my confession for the world to see.  A world that for the most part doesn’t understand the term nor apply it properly to their lives.  I have been in a wrestling match in the spirit for the last three years trying to figure out where the line is drawn for believers in relation to open air preaching; speech and behaviors.  The link below you can find what I think is a good defense of harsh words in the open air.  An excerpt from that blog is a standard I set for myself in regards to these important truths.  NOTE: If you are not preaching open air at all, you can’t even begin to judge these matters righteously.  See this blog about all men of God preaching..HERE.

Doubtful Disputes With Cursing Christians?

Setting a Standard of Holiness in Speech and Conduct

With that said, I have wrestled with a standard for which I would govern myself according to the Holy Ghost in my open air work.  So, whatever motivates another brother to preach and how he preaches, I give God glory and thanks the Gospel is preached.  For myself, I must come to a place where I am obeying the Holy Ghost and what He is teaching me in these matters.

Here are some standards I am laying out for myself:
1.  I will use words from the KJV Bible(preferred) in context and applicability.
2.  I will use words that are scientific or biblical in regards to sexual sins or otherwise.
3.  I will limit the use of slang, inflammatory, or non biblical words which may unnecessarily incite hearers.
4.  I will seek to use primarily biblical type parables vs. parables that play to the imaginations of sin.
5.  I will not apply my standard to other people but pray they seek the Holy Ghost for a standard for themselves and walk according to His direction if they have not already done so.
6.  I will seek to check my heart toward the lost, both before, during and after a preach.
7.  I will seek to do the Lord’s will in all things even if men don’t understand or approve.
8. I will seek to be flexible on words or behaviors for weaker brothers or sisters I am working with.  Rom 14

Do you see the red words, ” limit the”? Well, there is my confession that I changed that words, “limit the”, from the word “not”.  This happened after a period of not obeying the original standard of, “NOT”.    As I made my subtle change I wondered about it and told myself, “I’ve simply changed my mind.”  But, why you may ask?  Well, I wasn’t practicing the NOT standard I had put upon myself in the first place.   The Lord have convicted me to return to my original standard. That has been violated numerous times as I reflect back on it.  I have videos that have been posted using terms like; flogging the log, fudge packer, etc that I will practice not saying those types of things again.

Lastly, keep in mind that does not mean that I will not use bible words like; whore, dogs, pigs, bastards, etc. if I am quoting certain passages or concepts.  This would include calling someone out for looking like a whore, acting like a dog, etc. Synonymous words are something I have liberty in as well.  Well, this standard I have set for myself is a good standard to consider for yourselves add and subtract as you follow the Holy Ghost.

I am adding a point #8 which has come up a few times in working with groups of believers. I don’t want to stumble anyone, yet shouldn’t they apply the same standard to me and others that believe the way we do?   I will also add if it is just too much too bear that splitting off to ease the conscience of the others is an option as well.

Why critique another man’s ministry call him a heretic, gossip about him, and then try and influence people away from standing with the truth of things God hath said?  Ironically, most of these men and women do this without ever speaking to the object of their disdain, the open air preacher.   Isn’t that sowing discord among believers even if you don’t consider them a brother?   What if they are and your doubt is causing the problem in the first place?  Doesn’t God hate that?  Prov 6:16-19

Pro 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.