A True Witness to My Lesbian Daughter, Gina Rose McGlone

Gina & Kaliq at her lesbian wedding Oct '13

Gina & Kaliq at her lesbian wedding Oct ’13

Here is a FB post I did a almost four years ago concerning our lost daughter, Gina.

Dec ’13
My lesbian daughter was married a few months ago to her lesbian life partner Jesse. Some strange man walked her down the aisle of destruction to her ‘husband’, Jesse, a woman that is supposed to love her. The truth is they don’t love each other at all but hate each other and Jesus.  They are loving their sexual pleasures unto death in eternal hell fire. In fact, all who attended and approved this marriage will give an account to Jesus Christ on that Great and terrible day of JUDGMENT. God’s Word does not change in these matters of life. My closest ‘Christian’ sister Cynthia wished God’s blessing upon the union, gushing how beautiful she was. In eternity, Gina will know that a few of us actually loved her and Kaliq enough to tell them the truth even though it was hard and separated us from them unless they repent. Everything will be turned upside down for the unbeliever on that day. All the celebrations of wickedness, sin loving, revelries, hatred, and lies told about King Jesus will be finished. They will be made low, and the lowly in this life will be lifted up. I often envision that day when all these wicked so called pastors, teachers, priests and ‘Christians’ will give an account to Jesus whose fiery eyes will pierce every smokescreen they ever put up about themselves and everyone around them that is living in the darkness of sin. They will give an account for every time they comforted a sinner in their sin instead of telling them to flee the wrath of God to come and flee to Jesus for cleansing of their hearts and lives. Jesus came to set His people free from sin, not free to sin. I have given over 16 years of testimony to my earthly family and everyone flatly rejects Jesus of the Bible. I have given over four years of direct testimony to Gina concerning her life decisions which are leading her to eternal destruction. Here are some of the Scripture truths she has rejected.

Rom 1:18-32
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Eph 5:5-7
For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them.

Col 3:5-7
Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.

Jude 14-16
Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.

Many will say my judgment and testimony against my family is harsh or unloving. But, the Bible clearly tells us to not be ashamed of Jesus and His Words. Saints, if you have lost family members and you have NOT given them a clear testimony about sin, righteousness, judgment to come, Jesus’ life, death, burial, resurrection, forgiveness, mercy, judgment to come please go to them while there is time in the hopes that some of them might realize their eternal peril, repent, and surrender their whole life; heart, mind, strength, and soul unto Jesus Christ who is worthy to be adored forever!

Get married to Jesus Christ!

This is the latest dialogue I had with my eldest daughter on 06/01/16 on my YT channel concering this specific video about my grand mother’s funeral preach.  You can see that here:

Here are the comments that were initiated by her. Apparently, she has not wanted to watch this for years and now at someone’s prompting she has viewed it, and decided to open it up a conversation with me. At the end of this blog I will post an extended dialogue with her over FB initiated by me concerning her newly found Buddhist religion.

Gina Mcglone 10 hours ago
Please don’t ever speak of your first wife being dead. She lived through you beating her for years and years. Even with your death threats as well. Luckily I was able to hide in closets and her take it. I’m glad you feel amazing shaming and shaming. You would have died without your grandmother saving you. I want you to live and preach as you please. But not respecting grandma Ruth and what she did for you to still be here….. makes me sick to my stomach. Do your testimonies say all?I tried to avoid watching this. Is there no respect left for you?
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John McGlone  3 hours ago
As I understand, your mother, my first wife died as a lesbian next to her ‘lover’ who hated her with her sexual sin unto death. If your mother was not a lesbian who died this way, please correct me. This is the same sin that offends the Holy God of the Bible that you are involved with. I never hit your mother one time. God is my witness. I think I wrestled with her a few times because she began to hit me. Your perspective of a little girl in a closet listening to a drunk, adulterous daddy arguing with a wife who was understandably jealous is nothing near the truth. This whole world will be ashamed on that great day that Jesus Christ shows up to judge the hypocrites like yourself. I can relate, I was a hypocrite as well. I hated my father who was a drunkard and adulterer and had horrible arguments with my mother and neglected us. Then guess what? I grew up to be just like him, a drunkard, wife abusing, adulterer, and murdering bastard. I did love your mother in a carnal, earthy sense. But, if I would have loved her as godly Christian man, as I should, and she deserved, our lives would have been much different.

I love/d Grandma Ruth much more than you think. However I love Jesus more than any of you, I will not compromise His teaching so you all can be comfortable in your sin.

Here is how Jesus teaches I should love Him.

Mat 10:35-39 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Knowing as I do that Roman Catholics like Grandma Ruth, are idol worshipers, and that NO ONE is ‘good’ before the fiery eyes of Jesus, I am very sure that she like grandma Maggie and most every other member of our family has or will end up in the lake of fire that Jesus taught. That is unless they repent of their sin and be converted. It is not my desire that you, Jesse, John David, Melissa, Cynthia, Amy Ruth, or any other human being would end up in the torment, gnashing of teeth, wailing, and outer darkness of God’s justice. That is not God’s desire either.

Eze_18:23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord GOD, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?

Do you hear that last condition, that God requires in order for you to have life in Him? You must turn from your sinful ways and Jesus will give you life! I deserve hell more than most of you. But, God knows none of us deserve to be with Him either. You are in sin, you are a child of the devil, just like the rest of our family. Until you recognize that and agree with God’s judgment of you, then you can not be converted. You MUST humble yourselves, confess your sin, and seek the Holy Spirit until He confirms you have been forgiven. Then you must live holy as He is holy, abiding in Jesus Christ until your earthy body dies, or Jesus returns.

My grandmother couldn’t ‘save me, neither could any man save any of us, except Jesus Christ. He is the Name above every name. There is no other name under heaven by which we might be saved. You must do this by faith or trust in Him. I can’t save you but Jesus wants you to be with Him.

Jesus has loved us at a bloody cross of suffering and shame. I am not ashamed of that love. But, I am ashamed that I sinned against that love for those 23 years between my mother’s death and my conversion in Aug ’96. I was a horrible, wicked, filthy man whom God has changed through that suffering for His creatures. You can’t love the creatures and not love the Creator of them. But, this is exactly what has happened in our world. The struggles of humanity as they blindly grope around their wicked lives for meaning and purpose finding none, refusing the sacrifice of Jesus, all the while God had offered them the hand of mercy that they would not have to be condemned.

Isa 5:25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

Does Jesus need to apologize that He will send most people to the lake of eternal fire because He is holy and the people refused to love Him back in this life?

I’d really appreciate it, if you would answer all my questions. Thank you.

I love you and pray you would get right that God may grant you true repentance in Jesus’ Name.

+John McGlone you are so far off its beyond insane. She was very happy when she passed and would have married a great man she was dating if she hadn’t unexpectedly passed. Get it together. You know nothing

John McGlone

+Gina Mcglone Good I’m glad she wasn’t a lesbian as you are. I hope she wasn’t sexually intimate with him. That would make her a fornicator, which would be very condemning to her soul. I know something, you are a lesbian who needs to repent of your marriage that God rejects. Get it together, you know nothing of the God of the Bible. Rom 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. If you find this public discussion uncomfortable, it is NOTHING compared to the JUDGMENT day for sinners when you will be naked and ashamed before your Creator. My whole life was a shame until I met Jesus Christ. Here is how he is described when He returns: 2Th 1:7-10 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. My testimony among you all has not been believed, up to now. Unless you repent, you will ALL likewise perish. You will get the horrible and severe consequences of what God will do with all the sinners and this world. Repent or Perish! Luke 13:3,5 Jesus Christ.

In conclusion, Gina’s life of sin is her choice.  But, my sinful choices when she was a little girl of ten who loved her daddy have had long term consequences.  I abandoned her and her mother at that young age for a life of drunken whoremongering.  I loved my sin, more than my marriage, and even my own precious daughter!  I had become just like my father who abandoned his family for the same things when I was five.  I hated him and then became the same monster of iniquity that he was.  This is the cycle of sin for carnal humanity, we hurt God’s heart, then hurt each other with our selfish desires for sin.  Every earthly father will have the greatest judgment for the way he led and cared for his wife and family members, both naturally and spiritually.  Dads we must lead our families to the narrow gate which is Jesus Christ that He and they may find us blameless in these grave responsibilities!  Who will be ‘man’ enough to do the bidding of our Great God and King Jesus Christ?

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Gina in Orlando, FL somewhere around ’89 with boots on

 

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Gina with her mother at H.S. graduation in Orlando, FL around ’97

 

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Gina with her lesbian husband, Jesse and our grandson Kaliq

 

 

 

 

 

 

175 Comments to A True Witness to My Lesbian Daughter, Gina Rose McGlone

  1. rich rennier says:

    My heart hurts for you John. I face the same situation in my own life. My daughter is the enemy of the One I love (Jesus). She has heard and rejected everything that her mother and I have said. The saddest part is that she believes that she is in right standing with God and has found (Christians??) to confirm this. Bless you bro never give up praying and standing on Truth, there is hope until they throw dirt in our daughters faces.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Thanks for your heartfelt comments Rich. It is very difficult for every parent that has had a child stolen by the world and the devils. Yes, we have hope in Christ, while they yet live they may repent and be born again as we were! I greatly regret that my own wicked life of sin contributed greatly to my daughter’s demise spiritually. But, she is a freewill creature and has chosen her wide way to destruction. My efforts are perfectly documented with the Lord, as I am sure yours are. Have you seen my grandmother’s funeral preach? It has sealed my family in their hatred toward me, now I am praying for them. I witnessed to them for 16 years, rejection after rejection…

      • Tracy Grisham says:

        John, Thank you for posting this, Thank you for preaching the truth to your family. David and I have witnessed to my family and his over the years it is a hard thing to do, but its not so hard when you really love them and want to see them in heaven. I have been asked many times wile witnessing to homosexuals what if you had a son or daughter that was gay how would you handle it. I hope I would handle it the way you have always believing for their salvation and always willing to share the truth with them in love.

  2. A Concerned Christian says:

    You are a disgrace to the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us to love, and he will judge. Stop doing the judging for him… Stop giving Christianity the wrong image… Our God doesn’t hate, so we don’t either…

    • johnmcglone says:

      Anthony,
      Are you judging our judgments from the Bible? Is judging me as being a ‘disgrace to the name of Jesus Christ.’, very hypocritical? The Bible clearly teaches that God hates both the sin and the sinner. I judge you are a Bible illiterate. Study more to show yourself approved unto God. I hope you will have the courage to respond, your eternal soul depends on it. Here is a blog I’d like to hear your thoughts about open air preaching.

      http://www.jesuspreacher.com/openairpreaching/

      Regards,
      John

      • Shawn says:

        I would say my prayers for Gina Rose have come true. She has found happiness away from her hateful, abusive, ungodly father! I am so happy for her…
        You are a joke of a father and a terrible excuse for a human being. If there is a heaven and hell you better pack a lot of sunscreen.

        • johnmcglone says:

          Granted I definitely was a horrible father when I was a sinner like you. I loved to pin me some whores, as I was drunk on my way to hell fire neglecting both my daughter and her mother. Sinners like you and I was are the ones that go to the everlasting fire that Jesus taught about in the NT. Sunscreen would never help anyone there. Repent or perish!

          • John McLoser says:

            hahaha!! “When I was a sinner like you” That’s funny stuff. Admitting your “old ways” and allegedly repenting doesn’t mean you can do whatever the hell you want and then berate people for not doing it “god’s way”. Don’t know which copy of the bible you read, but I think you’re making it up as you go to suit your needs. You will perish along with the rest of us.

        • johnmcglone says:

          Also, so you know the God of the Bible does not listen to the prayers of sinners. See the blog here for details…you gonna burn if you don’t turn!

          http://www.jesuspreacher.com/pulse-massacre-are-homosexual-prayers-heard/

      • Tracy Grisham says:

        The sinner hates Judgment, but they themselves judge all day long. It would be better for them to hear and receive the truth before that Great and terrible day of the Lord. Great and terrible!!! Great for those who believe and obey and terrible for all the rebellious unbelieving sinners.

      • Regina says:

        I think it says Jesus loves the sinner but detests the sin

        • johnmcglone says:

          Where does the Bible say what you just wrote? If you could give me the book, chapter, and verses I’d really appreciate it. God bless you.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Anthony, Been over two weeks now…cat got your tongue? Would you answer my sincere questions please? Thanks.

    • bill says:

      Bible does the judging. Scripture is to be used for correcting. John is correct Why do you judge John so falsely?

    • Crystal says:

      God loves us all. You christian jesus freaks aren’t really for jesus. Eat your dicks and burn

      • johnmcglone says:

        I rarely approve vulgar comments like yours. But, just so the rest of the world knows how dirty you think and talk I allowed it this time. I won’t allow it again. Repent or burn in hell whore mouth.

        • Lyla Reynolds says:

          I just wanted to say something. You just called someone out for their use of language, and then came right back at them with equally dirty language? This is not what this website should be about. I’m truly ashamed.

  3. Truth says:

    from this post a few things are clear.
    Your motivation for being as loud and nonunderstanding and judgemental towards everyone. Using Gods name in vein and as a weapon.
    Its because you have self hate. And anger. And to much testosterone.
    From failing your children.
    Have a bastard child out of wedlock.
    Being a drunk and women abuser.
    You have not found forgiveness. Or love. You dont fee love forgiveness or jesus in others.
    And you are not changed from then. You are nly channeling your hate and hurting people in other ways. If i were your daughter i wohld become a lesbian too if it meant being as far away as possible from you.
    I hope you find real forgiveness real healing. And the real God that your missing

    • johnmcglone says:

      Truth,
      Thanks for your comments, but they are way off base spiritually speaking. The Bible commands preachers to be: loud, judge righteously, and condemn so that the sinner may realize they are in trouble with the Holy God of the Bible.

      In judging that I have self hate, anger, too much testosterone, etc aren’t you being hypocritical for condemning our judgments from God’s Word?

      I received forgiveness 21 years ago when I confessed all my sin and was born again. You saying otherwise proves nothing.

      If you became a lesbian like my daughter you would go to hell with her. Everything we preach is right there in the Bible for reference. Do you study your Bible?

      I’d like to hear your thoughts on this blog post:

      http://www.jesuspreacher.com/openairpreaching/

      Regards,
      John

  4. Maria Russo says:

    I’m so grateful that I have no family to treat me with this kind of intolerance & aggression. It’s none of anyone else’s business how Gina lives HER life. But, it’s a shame that some of her family members have their heads so far up their own asses that they can’t even see. Love is love. It’s difficult to find & harder to maintain, whether it’s a traditional male/ female model or any other. Why hate something so much that has NOTHING to do with you? Gina’s wife & child are her expression of family. And family is supposed to support you & love you even though you may not agree with all of their choices. Tolerance is something required. If that’s not possible, perhaps you should just leave them alone. Stop praying for everyone else. They don’t require prayers but perhaps you stone throwing, intolerant family members should pray for yourselves to find peace in a decision that is just NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Leave Gina alone. She didn’t make these decisions randomly. Jesus loves everyone. So stop spewing your lies & hatred. Friends of Gina’s family find your derision in poor taste. Love to Gina, Jesse, and Kalic

    • johnmcglone says:

      Maria, according to the Christian worldview, not only am I her father, but her keeper. I am your keeper as well, even though I don’t know you from Adam or Eve. Are you a lesbian? What did you intend when you came up with the idea for your email, btchyktty@yahoo.com? Does that mean ‘bitchykitty’ or ‘butchykitty’ or something else?

      In regards to how Gina lives HER life. God gave her life inside her mother’s womb, God is ruling the Universe but not Gina’s life. So, it certainly is HIS business. And as an ambassador in chains to my Master Jesus Christ I warn her and every other homo and their approvers. I made the sperm deposit which began the creation of her life. I spent 21 years in the U.S. Navy because of an operation for her congenital heart defect. I did that because no insurance would cover her $115,000 open heart surgery. I reelisted, got my bonus as a demonstration of my love for her. I stayed in the Navy to financially care for her. I made many sacrifices in my life for her benefit. So, for you to come on here and type something as stupid as, “…it’s NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS..” is blatantly absurd to say the least.

      As I understand Gina’s ‘wife’ Jesse is playing the ‘husband’ role not the feminine role. You assert this has NOTHING to do with me. Yet, I care for Gina and Jesse’s souls more than they and you do. They are in danger of eternal damnation from Jesus Christ. It has EVERYTHING to do with me in that I should be bouncing lots of grand children on my knee from a normal marriage that Gina could have with a godly man. Of course, this could only happen IF she repented of her perverted thinking and lifestyle.
      Family is supposed to ‘support and love’ you no matter what? What if your child grew up to become a Muslim who chopped people’s heads off? Are you supposed to ‘support and love’ them no matter what?
      Tolerance is something required? Where does the Bible say that? In fact, MOST people will not be ‘tolerated’ by Jesus Christ on JUDGMENT DAY and thrown into eternal fire. Why would I leave people alone that are on their way to eternal fire? In memory of my homosexual daughter and cousin, I faithful go to homo PRIDE events all over the country all the time to warn the wicked perverts to flee the wrath of God to come.
      Why the intolerance of telling me that my own flesh and blood is NONE OF MY BUSINESS? Leave me alone. I didn’t make these decisions about Christ randomly.

      Jesus LOVED everyone at a bloody and brutal cross, which most people refuse to look at in order to be saved from their sins and God’s JUDGMENT. Jesus said IF you love me, KEEP my commandments. John 14:15 So, stop spewing all the lies and hatred about God and myself. Gina, and all her homo loving ‘friends’ so called and family should know that God holds everyone of them in DERISION and laughs about them too. God finds your illogical defenses of the destructive homo deathstyle to be in very poor taste and outright REBELLION to HIS AUTHORITY.
      Your ‘love’ to Gina, Jess, and Kaliq are as fake as your love for Jesus. Repent or Perish in hellfire. ALL OF YOU.

      Psa_2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

      Psalm_59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.

      1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

      • M says:

        You are the epitomy of a hateful christian. You use scripture to disgrace every thing ypu see wrong. Jesus loved the sinners he died for them and their sin. You as a human being and son of Jesus need to stop judging because thats not what are father would want. You need to repent. You are hurt because Gina chose a life that she wanted not the life tou wanted for her. You are only hurting yourself. Reconsider reconciliation with her. In the long run, she is your family and daughter. I hope you see the error of your ways.
        Im not going to respond to your backlash and your little thoughts. I being a daughter of the one true king, know better to turn the other cheek and love those who need love. I don’t hate anyone but love everyone. Love is love! Love will always win! Love conquers all!

        • johnmcglone says:

          Stop hating the hate M! Isn’t that hypocrisy?
          Yes, it hurts that Gina chose sin over a relationship with me. But, how much more is Jesus Christ broken hearted the One who created her? Love is love? So when a rapist loves a woman the way he like to, that is love? When a Muslim ‘loves’ his children and has his daughter’s genitals cut off that is love? Love warns, love rebukes and chastens. Read Rev 3:19 and give me your interpretation of Jesus’ love please. Thank you. Love, John

        • johnmcglone says:

          Does God hate?
          God’s Hatred:

          2 Ch_19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

          Psa 5:4-6 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. 5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. 6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

          Psa 11:5-6 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. 6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

          Psa 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

          Pro 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

          Joh 3:18-21 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

          Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

          Our Proper Love Response to God:

          Psa_97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

          Mic_6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

          Luk_10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

          Since God is love and yet He obviously demonstrates hatred, we must come to the conclusion that Jesus is both loving and hateful at the same time. God’s love and hatred are a both/and characteristic not an either/or. Ironically, God uses these very things to winnow out partial lukewarm believers also known as hypocrites. Do you ‘believe’ every doctrine that God teaches from every verse of His Holy Word?

          Many ‘Christians’ in our day will say, “But, if God hates sinners then we are all condemned because we are all sinners!” Well as we have seen in other areas of God’s Word that He doesn’t even listen to sinners! When I realized this some years ago it was a light breaking forth in my mind and heart about how Holy God really is. You can read that teaching here: DOES GOD HEAR SINNERS? True believers are called saints in the Bible. Almost every Epistle starts with the terms; saints in Ephesus, saints in Rome, etc. May the Lord show you that being sanctified and holy are the characteristics of the saints that will return with Jesus.

          Jud 1:14-15 …., saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
          Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

          What should we then conclude? Firstly, we should not try and change God’s characteristics to make Him seem to be more loving, tolerant, or accepted by or for the carnal mind. Secondly, to compromise His character is to bring into question whole sections of Scripture which describe him and how He will deal with humanity forever. Thirdly, we must realize if we do so that we create a new god, with a new gospel that will never bring about true reconciliation and peace between God and mankind.

          These have always been major problems in the people’s understanding of the True and Living God of the Bible. This isn’t a new phenomena that recently came upon America the last few hundred years, there is nothing new under the sun.

    • bill says:

      It is the fathers business. Don’t excuse sin. Gina’s end will likely be miserable – not including hell which beckons. People like you help send others to hell. Look up the misery lesbians have. A small time of pleasure and twisted thinking normally ends in disaster.

      • johnmcglone says:

        Hey Bill, I think you’re addressing Maria, correct?

      • Kayela says:

        You are disgusting people. I laugh at such ignorance. I won’t cast the any stones because it wouldn’t be worth my time. Ignorance is bliss. You don’t have to like it but you do need to respect your daughter. Surely you’re happy with the non existent relationship the two of you have? Or maybe you’re happy that you can’t see your precious grandson grow up? Or maybe you’re happy that your daughter probably despises you? God Bless You and may He have mercy on your evil soul. ️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍️‍

        • johnmcglone says:

          You know nothing of me, my family, or the love we have for our daughter. Stop judging hypocritically, HYPOCRITE.

          • Bonersaurus says:

            Trolls trolling trollfully. You live a sad miserable fearful life. Go Gina! At least she’s happy ya nerd. You also seem to be a very angry person. You are the reason people think Christians are shitty judgmental bastards only concerned with others doings. “Live your life this way or I’ll shame you!” Pathetic little man with no heart.

          • johnmcglone says:

            I will only warn you once about dirty language, then you will be banned from my cool website. You’re welcome to comment, but do so in a loving and civil way! Are you a homo? Repent or perish!

          • Regina says:

            I just wanted to comment to the father cause I truly believe that u most certainly do
            Love your daughter you brought her into the world looked after her every which way that u could and cared for her soul as well where her choices in life could lead her in next world this to me is true love of a father for his daughter

          • johnmcglone says:

            Yes, I very much love my daughter and grand son. That is why I am compelled to tell her the truths about Jesus’ teachings in the Bible.

  5. Mankind says:

    Lmfao I know this will be deleted but for real you guys are the reason mankind will never advance…

    • johnmcglone says:

      Well, you’re presumption about the deletion is obviously incorrect. However, the question will be are you willing to actually reason out your bald assertion, “…you guys are the reason mankind will never advance…”

  6. Matt M says:

    John,

    A few questions. Where did you do seminary at? Are you considering yourself without sin? And by the accounts of Jesus when, while he was here on earth, hurt or damn anyone other than Satan while he was in the desert? I agree homosexuality is a sin that cannot be forgiven if you don’t intend to stop it. I also agree that you love God and put him above all things including your family but the word Christian means to be Christ like and all i see in your protests and comments is hate filled rage. Love your enemies God loves sinners we are created in a sinful flesh that without Jesus we are damned. Unless your perfect.. which, I KNOW YOUR NOT, you are a sinner, that’s why Jesus died for us, no matter what you do that takes the form as sin, you sin. If you didn’t Jesus would not have had to die for you and i on the cross. You are doing nothing more than preaching on what you think you know.. that is of the evil one he will use Christians to keep people away of knowing who God really is. Because the more you make him be so hateful the more people will not want to know more about him. I feel your heart is in the right place but your just not doing it the way you should.

    With honest love,

    Matt

    • Matt M says:

      I guess the more i think the more i need to quote some scripture myself

      Galatians 5:22 but the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control against such things there is no law

      Romans 13:8 owe no one anything except to love each other for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law

      Romans 12:9-19 let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil hold fast to what is good love one another with brotherly affection outdo one another in showing honor do not be slothful in Zeal be fervent in spirit serve the Lord rejoice in Hope be patient in Tribulation be constant in prayer contribute to the needs of the Saints and seek to show hospitality bless those who persecute you bless and do not curse them Rejoice with those who Rejoice with those who weep live in harmony with one another do not be haughty associate with the lowly never be wise in your own site repay no one evil for evil but give thought to do what is Honorable in the sight of all if possible so far as it depends on you live peacefully with all be loved never avenge yourselves but leave it to the wrath of God for it is written vengeance is mine I will repay says the Lord.

      Romans 5:8-11 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us since therefore we have now been justified by his blood much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God for if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his son much more now that we are reconciled shall we be saved by his life more than that we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom we have now received reconciliation

    • johnmcglone says:

      Matt,
      Honest love, really?
      Let me answer your questions:
      1. I have spent 21 years studying God’s Word under the instruction of the Holy Spirit. Do I need a better teacher than Him?
      Luk_12:12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”
      Joh_14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

      Let me try and help you understand all of your inconsistencies here:
      1. You ask am I without sin, then you baldly assert later,”I KNOW YOUR NOT.” Bald assertions are logical fallacies. I have sinned in my past. I choose daily to pick up my cross and follow Jesus.
      2. Then you say homosexuality can’t be forgiven if they DON’T STOP. Huh? So, heterosexual sinners, like you can be forgiven if you DON’T STOP, but homosexuals can’t?
      3.You make judgments about our preaching open air, but do you preach or witness about Jesus? If so, what do you talk about, just His ‘love’?
      4. You assert we are created in ‘sinful flesh’, but where does the Bible teach this doctrine? Was Jesus born in the flesh? If so, what was different that He was sinless? Did God make our flesh perfectly in our mother’s wombs? Ps 139 If God did make us perfect what changed us metaphysically into sinners, the birth canal, breathing, what? Is sin a choice or the way we are made. 1 John 3:4
      5. Didn’t Jesus command us to be perfect? Can’t you do all things through Christ who strengthens you?
      I surely hope you will be intellectually honest enough here to answer all my questions and points from Scripture. thank you.
      Regards in Christ,
      John

      • Matt M says:

        I say your not without sin because your not.. Because there is only one who is perfect and that is Christ himself… the very thing your doing is a sin. You help your fellow Christian brothers out by reading the word you leave the judging to God. 21 years self taught doesn’t teach you the understanding of the Greek language which wad what the new testament was written. Your a self proclaiming man interpreting scripture without complete understanding of the words used. And taking weekday you read as YOU understand it not with research and education on theology. Someone who has been educated as a Minster preacher etc would agree. Just like you wouldn’t be your own lawyer would you? That’s why e have lawyers. The same is true here we go to educated people who have more knowledge and understanding of the translations of scripture. I feel this will be a never ending post lol did i will leave you with this. I hope you maybe study with someone educated in the word and see if they believe as you. Because anyone can proclaim being led by the holy spirit when in fact they are being led by the evil one. For some will come in my name, but they ate wolves in sheep’s clothing. Romans 16:17-20.

        You’ve given your self divine identity by professing these things if you don not sin any longer as you say then Jesus would habe not habe to have died. He died for all sins past present and future.

        • johnmcglone says:

          What sin am I in specifically? If I were in sin, I surely would like to understand it so I could repent. I often hear these ministers/priests/pastors say, “If you don’t believe I’m a sinner just ask my wife and children!” Well, surely I believe him, but you can ask my wife and children if I am living in sin and they will simply tell you the truth of an obedient dad who loves God supremely and them as himself.

          How do you interpret these verses?
          Rom 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Are we to remain in sin so that grace may increase? 2 Absolutely not! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

          1 Pet 1:14-19 14 Like obedient children, do not comply with the evil urges you used to follow in your ignorance, 15 but, like the Holy One who called you, become holy yourselves in all of your conduct, 16 for it is written, “You shall be holy, because I am holy.” 17 And if you address as Father the one who impartially judges according to each one’s work, live out the time of your temporary residence here in reverence. 18 You know that from your empty way of life inherited from your ancestors you were ransomed—not by perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but by precious blood like that of an unblemished and spotless lamb, namely Christ.

          Matt 5:48 So then, be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

          1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

  7. Mordecai says:

    If hell existed, I think all the people that you hate on (who are actually good people) including myself, would probably prefer hell to being in the same place as you.

    You’re a bigot, plain and simple.

    It sure is funny how you use a book from the Bronze Age that was basically a rewritten version of a combination of other various religions from that time that’s been retranslated hundreds of times since its original copy to dictate your life and how you treat your daughter.

    Your whole belief system is based on extortion. Basically, “Believe and worship me and I’ll protect you… don’t believe and worship me and I’ll send you to hell. Ooh, but I love you!”

    Pretty pathetic.

    • johnmcglone says:

      God has said, NONE are good, NONE are righteous. Thus, you are simply an unbeliever on his way to the dark hell Jesus promised. You will eternally regret the day you wrote what you have. GOD will JUDGE every matter. You are the pathetic one sinner, repent or perish!

      • Mordecai says:

        You telling me that is like my mom telling me that I won’t get any presents from Santa Claus if I’m not a good little boy.

        OoOooOoh! Hell!? SooOOooOo scary! Whatever shall I do!? Pshh!

        • johnmcglone says:

          No sinner, this is the reality. Saint John tells sinner Mordecai he needs to repent and trust Jesus. Mocking Mordecai goes on in his rebellion till he dies. Jesus Christ then judges mortal Mordecai as guilty and send him to everlasting fire and damnation. Saint John and all the other heavenly host proclaim, “Amen Lord Jesus, your JUDGMENTS are righteous and true!”

      • Regina says:

        I believe it’s not Jesus who sends the sinner to hell its the sinner who
        Keeps sinning and lives in darkness he chooses the lake of fire not Jesus

        • johnmcglone says:

          I do agree that the sinner’s rejection of Jesus’ love and mercy does lead them to be guilty for their crimes/sin. But, they will not want to go to hell. On that day many will be cut in half or bound hand and foot and thrown into the fire at Jesus’ commands and the angels obedience!

          Mat 22:13-14 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

          Mat_24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

          Luk_12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

          assunder or sunder is to cut in pieces…

  8. Jessica Marcus says:

    It all has become very clear now. You are still butt hurt that your first wife preferred the company of a woman to you and now your daughter has also done the same. The one point you miss about your faith is that you are supposed to be a “Christian.” All your verses are of the OT to which was written by those who never physically walked with GOD, saw his actions, felt his touch. It was written by those like yourself who merely made a mental interpretation of what they thought he meant. He didn’t speak over a loud speaker where everyone could hear his words, he only supposedly spoke to people in their minds, so basically everything in the OT is made up of what people want to hear. Now read through the NT. This was written by those who walked with Jesus, saw his face, his actions, felt his touch upon their skin. The tone of the NT is much different from that if the OT. The NT is nothing but accounts of what a loving, non judgemental, accepting person Jesus was. He befriended and walked with a prostitute, he sat with lepers. He never screamed at people for their faults. He never turned his back on anyone. Jesus didn’t not hateful, nor did he possess disgust for anyone. He even prayed for and loved the very men who were beating and crucifying him. Not an unkind word came from his mouth. Yet somehow people like yourself can somehow twist his teachings into something of condemnation and hate. If you truly want to lead an honestly Christian life, you will stop with your negativity. Stop with your hateful rhetoric. Stop with your complete ignorance to real Christianity and love your daughter and her wife. God is love. John 1. I also suggest you read and reread Matthew 22 27-29 and 1 Peter 4:8. Your condemnation of others is more of sin. Jesus frequently shot down hypocrites, yet not once did I ever read about him taunting or verbally assaulting gays or anyone for that matter.

    • johnmcglone says:

      You are biblically delusional. Repent or Perish! Jesus first words of ministry in Luke 13:3,5

      • Mordecai says:

        It funny how you tell off other Christians like THEY are wrong-minded… there are what? At least 20,000 denominations of Christianity? Each with varying degrees of difference? And you think you know exactly what it right?

        The fact that you are so narrow-minded that you shut down other Christians when they disagree with you shows just how much of a bigot you are.

        The way you speak to others about religion is essentially comparable to the Al-Qaeda. The only thing holding you back from murdering your daughter for being a lesbian and anyone else you meet that disagrees with you is the laws of this country. It’s a good thing we have a secular government, an I right? Otherwise, you’d be lopping off heads left and right.

        You really do give good Christians a bad name… and that’s coming from an atheist.

      • Quinn Whitehead says:

        Jessica! Congratulations! You actually managed to stump this bigot, not that he will ever admit it. He wasn’t able to give an adequate response, so I simply threw out a flippant, “repent or perish.”

        John,

        You truly need to rethink your relationship with your daughter deeply. You are using what can be a beautiful religion to justify your hatred of your daughter, who reminds you too much of the heartbreak your wife gave you for you to love her. I hope that you find peace, live a happy life, and learn to love your child and her decisions.

        – a man with an opinion (which you may choose to listen to or ignore)

    • Tracy Grisham says:

      harsh words of Jesus, hypocrites, you serpents, you brood of vipers, you foolish ones, , you are like concealed tombs,, you like whitewashed tombs,you are of your father the devil, liar… you might want to consider this one carefully yourself Matt 15:7 “you hypocrites rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.”

  9. Mike Malken says:

    You are the one that is lost……..I feel so sorry for your family, especially your daughter. May God have mercy on you.

  10. Ome D says:

    Hi John,

    No reason to make this post I guess. Just wanted to state – I hope your interpretation of the bible allows this – that JC learned us that a lot of stuff from the old testament is fullfilled. What the apostle Paul writes later are his words (in letters mostly) and not the ones of Christ. And someway I feel Paul was just a man with his vision on things, just like you and I are.

    Christ also tells us (somewhere in Matth. 25 I think) to seek out people who need our love and attention (most of which are sinners or poor folks I guess). He made contact with Mary Magdalene and tax-collectors and castouts. People who were considered not to be appropriate/good were the ones he had love for. I like to follow that example.

    The God from the Old Testament hates people sometimes (the Great Flood for example and all kinds of human behaviour (a man shall not sleep with a man like he sleeps with a woman (but women can?); but people who marry and have sex with a girl under age 10 are not mentioned here –> am I correct?). The God from the New Testament is more loving (and Jesus came to earth to show us just HOW loving God was). The update Christ gave makes me smile. If God will not change – as some people state – he is not the Greatest of all (because he can not / will not change) and that would contradict the forgiving nature of Christ/God. God can change his mind, Jesus showes us that. Luckily!

    I wish you the very best. Greetings from the Netherlands (maybe the most sinful country in the world, but no worry, I’m OK, but I guess my English is not correct all the time (no sin by my knowing)).

    Ome D

    • johnmcglone says:

      Hey Br. Ome! Thanks for your comment! I think there is a huge inconsistency in your thinking and post. Please hear me. The God of the OT, YHWH is the same yesterday and forever! He is the same God that Jesus taught about in the NT. His character, His justice, His mercy has not changed.

      Heb_13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

      What changed was the Testator, Jesus Christ, showed up and fulfilled the testimony. He taught exclusively from the OT, as did the Apostles, and disciples for at least 25 years before the Gospels and Epistles were written.

  11. Mordecai says:

    Once again, shutting down other Christians and not even considering the possibility of something different.

    “To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead.” – Thomas Paine

  12. Tom Cogburn says:

    Testimony from a gay man…

    John, from as early as 5 years old, I knew I was different than other boys. They developed crushes on little girls and some teen celebrities. I, on the other hand, developed similar crushes; only my crushes were on boys.

    I guess I was 8 years old or so when I began to realize that this wasn’t “accepted behavior” for boys. I heard the words “sissy” and “queer” thrown around. I knew what they meant. I’m not sure where I learned that these same-gender attractions were “sinful”. I can’t recall my preacher talking about them at the church I attended. Maybe it was my family who taught me. Again, I can’t be sure.

    Nevertheless, by age 8 I firmly believed that being gay was a sin and that I was destined for hell if I didn’t change.

    It was around that time that I began a ritual. I would pray everyday; many times a day for God to forgive me–to change me–to make me straight–to make me normal–to make me like the other boys.

    This went on for years–throughout my early teens, into my teens and eventually into my early adulthood. I prayed and prayed and prayed. In addition, I sought out therapy to change my attractions. I placed myself into a Southern Baptist college in hopes that I would change. But nothing changed. I forced myself to date girls. I refused to give in to my temptations with other guys, though the opportunities to do so were available to me.

    I don’t know if you can begin to imagine the depths of despair, depression, anxiety/panic, self-hatred, isolation, etc. that a person goes through when they deny themselves such a powerful urge to simply connect with someone who they are attracted to. I’m not sure you can appreciate how alone I felt; how I felt God had completely given up on me; that He hated me. I just did not understand how THE most powerful Being–our Creator–could not or would not intervene. All of this was almost my undoing. Every aspect of my life was miserable. No one knew my “secret”. And what a huge burden it was.

    One fall afternoon when I was 23 years old, I was at my parent’s home helping my father burn off the previous year’s vines and stalks in their garden. It was something we did each year. It was something that I looked forward to.

    On that particular afternoon, I was enjoying the cool, brisk air and blue, cloudless sky. As I stood there leaning against my rake and watching the smoke rise, I began to feel the urge to pray to God once again–begging for Him to enter into my life and change me. I don’t know what I expected. I’d never heard from God before. I’d never felt Him working to change my attractions. There was just emptiness. But as I stood there, it occurred to me that in all of the years that I had been praying to God, I had always begged and pleaded for what “I” wanted. I had never asked God for what “He” wanted. I wasn’t really sure how to do this, so I simply bowed my head and said, “God, whatever Your will, let it be done.”

    John, if I live to be 1,000 years old, I’ll never forget what happened next. I was immediately overcome with a feeling of extreme peace and love–the likes of which I had never before experienced. Keep in mind that for 15 years I had been going to God and had never felt His presence. But in that moment, I knew–I had zero doubts that I was in the presence of the Almighty.

    As I stood there allowing these overwhelming emotions rush over me time and again, I heard the voice of God. It wasn’t an audible voice that anyone else could hear. But it was a voice in my head. The voice said, “Tom, I made you as I made you. I want you to be happy.”

    He made me as He made me, John. For whatever reason (and no one knows the reason) God made me to be a gay man. And furthermore, He wanted me to be happy!

    From that time on, God has led my life and has blessed me over and over. I know you’ll understand what I mean when I say that sometimes God will call you to do something, but you don’t want to do it. You think you know better. But, eventually, you see God’s wisdom. You see His purpose. You may be dragged, kicking and screaming, but He knows what He’s doing and eventually you understand.

    I won’t go into all of the ways that God has taught me–the places He has led me. That would take up way too much space here. I just wanted to share my testimony.

    Have I questioned these events? Absolutely! I know what is written in Scripture. But I also know and firmly believe that if you or anyone wants to know what God wants of you, it’s best to go directly to God and let His Holy Spirit guide you.

    Scripture is one tool that mankind has to understand what God wants of us. But it’s not the only tool. We have prayer so that we may communicate with God. And we also have his Holy Spirit to guide us.

    It always bothers me when people rely too heavily on Scripture. It’s like that old saying, “If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.” Well, if the only tool you rely on is Scripture, then you believe every issue can be addressed through verses in the Books of the Bible. Obviously God communicates with mankind. We simply have to listen.

    You may ask, “Why would God say that men sleeping with other men is worthy of capital punishment, but here’s this guy, Tom, saying that isn’t how God feels now?” The answer is, “I don’t know.”

    If you look at the history of Christianity, you’ll see that people in the past have used Scripture to support a variety of acts and beliefs that we simply wouldn’t support now.

    1 Peter 2:18 “Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.”

    Our society wouldn’t dream of owning slaves, but we did at one time. It’s estimated that between 10 million and 12 million slaves were brought to the New World and the US between 1525 and 1866. We treated them like property–raping them, beating them, tearing their families apart, killing them, etc. But all of this was seen as sound Scriptural practice.

    But we don’t–we would never do this again. So, what changed? Did mankind go against God and change? Or is it possible that God simply wanted to do away with slavery?

    I don’t believe God stopped communicating with mankind when the last letter of the last Book of the New Testament was penned. He still communicates with us. And, I believe that in His almighty plan, we simply do not know where God will take us.

    Why does God make gay people? Again, I don’t know. I suspect (after prayerful contemplation) that He created us to test mankind’s ability to love his neighbor as he loves himself. While you may be seeing more and more support for the LGBT community, there still are a lot of people out there who would simply like for us to disappear. They do not love us as God commanded them.

    Well, I’ll leave all of this right here. If you don’t wish to post this on your website (due to its length), please at least respond to me via my email below.

    Thanks for your time…

    Tom Cogburn,
    Knoxville, TN

    • johnmcglone says:

      Tom, thanks for your comments. Though I completely disagree with your life of sin and rebellion against the true and living God of the Bible, I respect that you were civil in your comments unlike most in your community. Do not be deceived by the devils, your temptations, or the world. Here are some verses for you and a blog post you might like:

      1Co 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

      Rom 1:26-32 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

      God’s Word doesn’t allow for us to continue in sin, but to confess it to Jesus, forsake it, and be born again of the Holy Spirit.
      You are praying to the god of your imaginations. The God of the Bible doesn’t even listen to sinners. Here is that post:

      http://www.jesuspreacher.com/pulse-massacre-are-homosexual-prayers-heard/

      • Mordecai says:

        Most in his community are civil. When you tell anyone that they are going to burn in hell for the way they live, what do you expect the immediate response is going to be.

        It’s sooooo funny that you are telling Tom that he’s praying to the “god of his imaginations” when you are praying to one yourself.

        “When we’re taught about Thor and Odin, it’s called mythology, but when it’s about God or Allah it’s ‘religion’…
        It’s like saying ‘I know that Batman and Superman don’t exist, but I have a close relationship with Spider-Man!”

        • johnmcglone says:

          Wrong mortal Mordecai, Jesus existed 2000 years ago, lived morally perfect,died for your sins as the OT predicted He would…then He arose from the grave showing Himself to over 500 eyewitnesses most of them who went to tortuous deaths never denying Christ is alive and ascended to the right hand of the Father. Your marvel/dc comic book heroes are just fakes based upon supernatural. Jesus is the real deal, bud. You better get ready mortal one, you’re gonna diiiiiiiiiiieeeeee!

          • Mordecai says:

            *sigh*

            You apparently didn’t get the point I was trying to make with the superhero quote.

            I know I’m going to die – you’re telling me like I don’t know. Sorry, that doesn’t scare me. Death happens. Whoop-e-do-do!

          • johnmcglone says:

            This is the part you are leaving out of your death:

            Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,

          • Quinn Whitehead says:

            John, you’re mortal, too. Also, the story of jesus is heavily influenced by mythologies that predate christianity. Jesus was pretty cool, but moral perfection is arbitrary. By some Nihilist philosophies, Jeffrey Dahmer would have lived morally perfect.

            I thank you again for making this website the most entertaining site i’ve ever been on.

            SECOND ONLY TO YOUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL!

            https://www.youtube.com/user/johnmcglone4

          • johnmcglone says:

            Thanks Quinn for your creds to the website and YT channel. If you don’t stop with the filthy talk I will have to ban you. I hope you will repent.

      • Tom Cogburn says:

        John…

        I don’t think we’re going to agree with one another on this issue.

        Am I a sinner? Yes, just like everyone else who is cursed in our human and broken form. I try to do right. I try to love my neighbor as Christ commanded. Sometimes that’s difficult when they say such awful things about people like me.

        When my parents found out about my orientation so many years ago, they were terrible. They said horrible things to me–wished they had aborted me–wished that I was dead. They even revealed to me that they had made plans to come to my home and kill me, then kill themselves so that no one would know my “shameful secret”.

        Do you think that gays should be put to death as suggested in the Old Testament?

        See, here’s what I don’t get… If being gay is a sin, why does God keep making us? Why doesn’t He intervene when we cry out to Him to change us throughout our youth? Some struggle with this issue their entire lives. Some take their lives because they cannot stand the incredible strain it puts on them. Whether they are bullied for being different or whether they cannot deal with the inner turmoil of believing they are displeasing God. Sometimes it’s too much.

        This is not a burden any of us took on. No one, no matter how much you may believe, has ever asked to be gay–to be so hated by so many.

        When we go to God for years and years, begging Him to stop our attractions, nothing happens. Nothing… Why do you suppose that is?

        I firmly believe that those who entered those verses in Scripture about homosexuality simply did not understand. It’s like the scientists who were punished by the church for suggesting that the planet earth isn’t the center of the universe–that our planet revolves around the sun. Or it’s like the strongly held belief for many, many years that being left-handed was a sign of evil; so much so that children were beaten and forced to learn to use their right hands as their dominant hands.

        Murder, rape, theft, and so on are all sins that have a clear impact on other people’s lives. Being gay does not impact other people’s lives. My being gay doesn’t impact you. My being gay doesn’t make me a bad neighbor, teacher, police officer, waiter, doctor, etc. The only person who is impacted by my being gay is me–I’m impacted by the hatred, violence, misunderstanding, and fear of others.

        Had I not gone to God asking that His will be done; had He not opened my eyes to let me know that He made me this way, I probably wouldn’t have survived. I was already on a very dark spiral. His words saved me. I went on to eventually get a masters degree in social work. I have spent over a quarter of a century helping people in the medical field–finding them shelter, providing comfort to victims of abuse, creating safe living environments, ending strife between family members; the list could go on and on. Had God not saved me, I wouldn’t have been able to do (what I believe to be) the good acts that I have done in my life.

        Just as you have undoubtedly done many good things (adopting your children, helping neighbors, etc.), who would have done those things had God not turned you from the self-destructive path that you were on?

        Look, I don’t expect that you’re going to suddenly change your mind based on what I write here. But I’m hopeful that someday you will understand what it is that gay people go through; that it’s not something that you can simply turn off. If it were something that could be changed, I can assure you, there would be no gay people on the planet. We didn’t ask to be this way. I don’t know of a single gay person who hasn’t deeply struggled with the issue. And if could have changed it, we would have. Had God wanted us changed, He would have given us the tools to do so.

        God doesn’t care that we’re attracted to someone of the same gender. He doesn’t care that we want to create a life with someone of the same gender. God, I believe, wants us to create a peaceful, loving world that celebrates Him. We are so far away from that.

        I wish you would turn your attention to those kinds of issues and simply leave us gay people alone.

        It bothers me that you are so vocal in denouncing homosexuality. It’s pressure from people like you that makes living difficult–especially for gay youth. Life is already so hard for them. Surely you know the statistics; that gay youth are 4 times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers and that number rises to 8 times more likely if their parents reject them.

        I’m afraid that you’re contributing to those numbers, John. Is that really what you want to do? Each time that you are covered in the media, some gay kid is watching and paying close attention. It’s just another source of pressure for them, John. It’s just more weight that they have to carry. This is why so many gay kids kill themselves.

        Please consider my words. Please pray about this issue. I will continue to pray that you receive enlightenment.

        Tom Cogburn

        • johnmcglone says:

          Tom, you are a sinner because you are continuing to sin when God commands you to repent of all sin and become a saint of God. On judgment day all of your moaning about how you couldn’t help it will just be part of your condemnation. You have a conscience, you know who the Creator is, you despise His authority in your life and you love your homo sin unto death. This may be your final warning. Repent or perish!

          Didn’t you read in Scripture where God doesn’t listen to sinners? Here is my blog filled with Scripture which proves my previous statement:

          http://www.jesuspreacher.com/pulse-massacre-are-homosexual-prayers-heard/

          I look forward to hearing your comments about that post, thanks.
          Regards,
          John

          • Tom Cogburn says:

            Then, if as you say, God doesn’t hear sinners (and you also claim that I am a sinner due to my “homo sin”), why is it that God has given me blessing after blessing? Why is it that God has led me from place to place to do His bidding?

            Soon after my parents told me about their plans to murder me and kill themselves because I am gay, I left my home in Tennessee and moved to San Francisco. I left Tennessee without any job prospects, without savings, without knowing where I would live once I got to San Francisco?

            And once I got to San Francisco, why is it that God led me to a wonderful job almost immediately? Why is it that God led me to a wonderful apartment, owned by a woman who was willing to work with me on my rent until my paychecks became regular?

            Why would God send me to a place where I learned that being gay didn’t make me special. After all, there are thousands and thousands of gay people in San Francisco. I was just another one of them. So, that aspect of my life which I had always believed made me different from everybody else–made me feel like a minority–made me fearful of others (should they find out about my homosexuality); that character that had always made me feel isolated and alone, suddenly disappeared. I became a stronger, happier, more self-confident person.

            Why would God lead me there to learn these things? And once I had learned them; once I understood that God had brought me out of darkness and self-hatred; out of despair and depression; away from those who actively persecuted gays and lesbians; why did God suddenly (after 14 years in San Francisco) call on me to return to East Tennessee?

            I begged with Him. I pleaded with Him. I didn’t want to return to where I had lived in Tennessee. I wanted to stay where I felt affirmed and loved.

            I’m sure you’ve heard the saying, “Man plans and God laughs”. I had planned on staying in San Francisco my entire life. I had no plans to return to Tennessee. But that wasn’t God’s plan for me. And I couldn’t understand it. For the life of me, I didn’t understand why God was sending me packing.

            Once I returned to TN, I became so very depressed. Once again I became so despondent that all I could think about was to end my life. The ways to end my life flashed through my mind over and over again. I couldn’t eat, sleep, concentrate, muster the energy to leave my home, and so on. And I was angry–so very angry that my world had been turned upside down.

            Then it occurred to me that this was a part of God’s plan. So, I began to ask God what it was that He wanted me to do. Why would he have sent me to such a wonderful place for 14 years only to send me back into the lion’s den of hatred, misunderstanding, fear, etc.?

            It was during this time that I began to think about all of the gay youth who attends the Southern Baptist college where I attended so many years before. I knew they were there. I knew they came from homes that would not support their orientation. I knew that the college would not provide support and comfort to them. I knew all of these things because that’s what I experienced when I went to college.

            So, God helped me to devise a program to help these students–to help them find the inner strength, the self-love, the fearlessness, etc. that I learned about while living in San Francisco.

            Three years ago I began a social-support group for these students. We meet every Tuesday on the college campus. At first I was fearful that the school’s administration wouldn’t be supportive, but they have been wonderful. These are people who are leaders in the faith community; leaders in the Baptist arena.

            See, unlike you, they look into their hearts. They pray to God for guidance. They don’t use Scripture as a hammer to force people to conform out of fear. They understand that God created gay people in His image. They support the scientific understanding of human orientation. And because of this, they provide the students with a haven–a place to grow and learn. A place free from self-hatred and despair.

            Who would have thought that God would send me on such a journey to learn very important lessons about myself and then have me return to an area that hates gays so much so that I could create an outreach program to help gay youth? As I’ve stated earlier, gay youth are at such great risk of going down the wrong path–suicide, substance abuse, dropping out of school, wanton sexual activity (which opens them up to any number of STD’s). But when you give them the support and guidance they need to avoid these pitfalls, then you have helped to set them on the right path.

            You talk in your essay (article–whatever you call it) about the Orlando shooting. Unbelievably, when the tragedy took place, I received a phone call from the president of the Baptist college where we are so loved. He told me that the school (even though most student had already left for summer break) was going to have an impromptu gathering to pray for the victims and their families.

            You’ll have to take my word for it, but the school is located in a very small, very rural part of East TN. It’s an extremely conservative area. No one knew how the vigil would be received by the community.

            We were shocked when nearly 100 people showed up to participate.

            Look, John, God is moving us in a different direction. You are being willfully blind and not seeing this movement. The LGBT community is becoming increasingly supported by society, our politicians, and our court systems.

            Homosexuals are not the men of Lot. Those men wanted to rape the Angel that God had sent to find a worthy soul. There was no doubt that this was the case.

            Homosexuals in our time are not rapists. We aren’t standing at the city gates waiting on strangers and demanding audiences with them. Those rapists in the story about Sodom and Gomorrah are like the rapists men face when they are imprisoned. It’s more about power and domination–not about sexual pleasure and love.

            There is a movement, John. And either you’re with God on this or you aren’t. Much like 50 years ago when the south began to integrate. Blacks were being treated terribly and God intervened. Those Caucasians who held intractable beliefs about Black Americans “place” in society were on the losing end of that movement–praise God! And you are on the losing end of this movement.

            Tom

          • johnmcglone says:

            Sodomites were supported in Sodom and Gomorrah and what happened to them hypocrite? This was over 3500 years ago.

            2 Pet_2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

            Jude_1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    • Mordecai says:

      Good for you, Tom!

  13. Kosta says:

    It is simply hilarious to me how a book can make you hate your own family over something as trivial and unimportant to you as their sexual orientation. You have nothing to do with your daughters sexuality. It is none of your business. You are a father and your only job is to put a smile on her face. Unfortunately, you have been deceived by a BOOK. You must be able to realize that when you were born you were not aware of the existence of “Jesus” until you were taught of it. Everything you read, is written by another man just like you. I feel so so sorry for you. Unfortunately it seems you will live your whole life disconnected from your family but soaked up in your image of an invisible man.

  14. Jack mehoff says:

    God is not real you nutcases. You’re all terrible human beings.

    • johnmcglone says:

      You proofs of your claims please? Thanks.

      • Mordecai says:

        You can’t prove that a god does exist.

        At least atheists can deduce the non-existence of any supernatural presence through science. You just throw out scripture that was concocted by a bunch of nitwits from a few thousand years ago. They thought the world was a flat disc for crying out loud! The Tower of Babel angered god? We’re in space! Plate tectonics disproves the great flood! Everything that happened in the Bible occurs within a radius of like 300 miles from the center of the Middle East. What science has doesn’t necessarily disprove your bible but it sure does make it look primitive and the least possible conclusion to how it all works.

        I could go on and on. I’m sure you won’t open your mind up enough to let even a tency-wency bit of knowledge in though.

        Teaching you any science is futile, I think.

        • johnmcglone says:

          I believe in the scientific method, but that is not the only area of knowledge. There is philosophy, history, geography and many other area where God has revealed many proofs of Himself. You are not ignorant of Him, you are suppressing His authority and ruling in your own life. Guess what? Your mucking it all up!

          • Mordecai says:

            You mean like Jesus revealing himself on a piece of toast? Real clever!

            If you truly understand science, then you should be able to counter the point that I made in my previous comment. Why didn’t god just tell those who wrote the Bible the the earth was spherical? That stars are superheated balls of gas? There’s not enough water on the planet to cover all the land that exists. If you know the scientific method, then you should be able to explain these things.

            There are thousands upon thousands of philosophies… you’re choosing one… most likely based on you’re geography. If you’re born and raised in America, then there’s a 70% chance that you’ll be born into a Christian household. If you were born in India, then you’d be Hindu. The history that you “learned” is one that has been twisted and misconstrued by your religious beliefs.

            Apply the scientific method to the context of the Bible and it becomes nothing more than a drab and poorly written fantasy novel.

            *finger in throat and dry heaving*

          • Quinn Whitehead says:

            Hey John, it’s me again.

            Watching you and Mordecai spar back and forth with knowledge (or a lack thereof in your case) has made this my favorite website to visit. I find myself refreshing the tab every few hours, in hopes that you will have responded to one of the commentors. It’s highly entertaining.

            Not only are you unable to hold your ground in a debate/conversation, you are only well-versed in one area of knowledge: Scripture. It shows when somebody stumps you. You then throw a bible verse at them, receding into your realm of safety and bigotry that we all call scripture.

            But the further problem with that is that the bible is an ancient text that has been edited like the biggest game of telephone ever played through hundreds of languages and billions of people. So not only is it just a complicated piece of literature, it is also filled to the brim with contradictions to itself. So nearly every one of your arguments falls apart under scrutiny.

            I truly lost it when you said you believed in the scientific method. Between laughing my ass off and typing, I am truly having the time of my life on this webpage. I’m going to explain something to you. I’m going to explain the purpose of the scientific method. Please read and think on what i’m saying before telling me about how I’m biblically delusion. I’m quite aware that you think I’m going to be on fire eternally, thank you 😉

            The purpose of the scientific method is to take an OBJECTIVE approach to problems, so that the evidence can point us toward the answer. In other words, saying, “What scientific evidence is there that God exists?”, goes against the scientific method. That is trying to prove a specific conclusion, not find the most likely solution in an objective fashion. So I highly doubt that you believe in the scientific method, because the scientific method (properly applied) points to many things, and God is not one of them.

            I’m sorry, John. In reality, philosophy doesn’t prove anything when it comes to the existence of god (or any other given deity).
            Also, I doubt you’d know Plato from Albert Camus when comes to philosophy. I might be wrong, but I think that’s a safe bet.

            Geography? Where does that point to God? There is very little that cannot be explained logically when it comes to geography, and our knowledge gap is shrinking very quickly when it comes to that subject. (I laughed my ass off at this as well).

            Honestly, I was going to type something about how you have your History wrong, but i’m gonna cut this short because I’m getting carpal tunnel from typing so much (not to mention it’s hard to type and laugh/cry at the same time).

            I think it’s funny that you think Mordecai is quote, “Mucking it all up”. Mordecai is well read and intelligent. Your wife left you (for another woman) after you beat her, your daughter left you and started a happy family, and you just sat here typing furiously wanking your dick to how biblically pure you are.

            What am I saying? I’m biblically delusional I guess.

            In conclusion:

            Mordecai, you’re awesome.

            Most of the rest you in this comment section are also awesome.

            John, please refer to my previous comment and rethink your life choices.

  15. Fuck you says:

    You’re an irresponsible dick. Let ur daughter love. Prayer now cannot erase your past sin. Do not judge. God will judge.

    • johnmcglone says:

      I’m very responsible. Don’t use the term di@k anymore here or you will get BANNED from my cool blog.

  16. Satan says:

    God is dead. And you… have killed him.

  17. User says:

    This is a tragedy, if only some people understood the full extent of sin, maybe there wouldn’t be problems like this is the world.

  18. Mordecai says:

    The whole concept of sin is ridiculous. A genocidal supernatural entity created himself in human form to be sacrificed to HIMSELF in order to appease himself so that we can be can be saved from himself?

    Sin is stupid.

    I can live a better and more moral life than MOST Christians simply by living by the Golden Rule. It’s hilarious to look at America’s prison religious demographic! Based on the way Christians are supposed be, they should be the lowest population… yet they are the greatest! Atheist population is less than 2% the last time I checked!

  19. Mordecai says:

    You seem to not understand WHY I said “sin is stupid”.

    What do you mean “How so I learn anything?”

    I learn by researching, I learn through trial and error, I learn by comparing and contrasting. In essence, the scientific method. I experience emotions and I analyze those emotions. Based on specific situations, I ask myself questions to help me determine what is good, what is bad, what is right, what is wrong… I get other people’s insight on those situations and try to think from their point of view, and not just my own. Will

    As far as the video? What are you wanting to know? My opinion on abortion?

    It seemed to me that the guy with the microphone was putting words into the other guy’s mouth and the other guy wasn’t very good at explaining how he came upon his morals… so it was a dumb conversation between an anti-abortion nut with a big mouth and a pro-choice guy that wasn’t very good at backing his morals. You want to have that same conversation with me? Bring it.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Sure, I don’t mind. Suppose we start with one question on our posts and answer the others point. Then we can trade these ideas. So, keep in mind one question and then the other answers and comes back with their question. I will let you ask first unless you would rather I ask. Thanks.

  20. Mordecai says:

    The basis for morals comes from experiencing, researching, and knowing human suffering… and having compassion.

    I get asked by theists “What’s keeping you from raping, killing, abusing, enslaving, or performing any other terrible acts upon other people? You don’t have God!”

    I say, “You know what? You’re right! Other than the laws of our country, what’s keeping me from doing those things? Nothing! Why don’t I do those things? Because it’s not something that I want done to me!!!! I don’t want to be raped! I don’t want to be killed! I don’t want to be enslaved! Why the fuck would I do it to anyone else!?!?!?”

    The fact that theists ask that question makes me wonder what they’d start doing if they DIDN’T have God/Bible to tell them that those things are wrong! If you think those things would be okay to do if you suddenly had no God to keep you in check, then you’re a sick bastard that needs to be locked up.

    Atheists don’t have morality problems… that’s a MYTH made up by Christians.

    Would you kill your daughter if God told you to kill her? If you would, then you need to be locked up! Guess who was going to kill their kid because God told them to? Abraham! He was a crazy old man and if he tried to do that now, he’d be put into a mental institution!

    Ever read the Book of Job? I have! That whole game that God and Satan played on Job and his family? Guess what? God isn’t moral! That’s sick!

    I can go on and on. You want to question my morality? I think it’s YOUR morality that should be questioned! Your the one who is cursing your daughter to hell instead of loving her for who she is. She hasn’t murdered or raped or abused or enslaved… she just loves another women! La-di-freakin-da! Get over it!

  21. Tom Cogburn says:

    Gonna try my best to be short and sweet in this comment.

    Just because you’re a member of the LGBT community doesn’t mean that you can’t worship Christ and try to follow His teachings. These are not mutually exclusive concepts.

    I could write a book about my faith in God. It wouldn’t be one of those “feel good” books. There have been many ups and downs in my life. I can only say that God has been there–right with me throughout. Had He not been there, then I am certain that I would not be sitting here typing these words. I would have ended it long, long ago.

    So, don’t be afraid to search for God and make Him a part of your life. If you go to the New Testament and read the words that are attributed to Christ, you’ll find that He is an amazing and loving God! He really is.

    That’s it for now…

    Tom

    • johnmcglone says:

      Wrong Tom, you are in BIG trouble with the God of the Bible, not the one of your imaginations. Jesus said in the NT:

      Mat 19:4-6 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

      Rom 1:26-32
      Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

      I hope you repent. Please don’t bother writing again until you deal with these two passages. You are being a hypocrite, woe to you.

      • Tom Cogburn says:

        I have no need to repent.

        Christ’s words in Matthew do not address homosexuality. He does not say that gay people should not exist. Now, He may be saying that same-gender marriages should not exist–but He doesn’t come right out and say it, does He? He simply describes a heterosexual marriage–that’s all. I believe you read way too much into this passage and draw too many conclusions that simply are not there.

        As for what Paul writes, well, Paul is Paul. He is not Christ. He is not God. Furthermore, Paul’s writings, according to those who study ancient languages, are very unclear. He tends to make up his own words to describe certain aspects of human behavior. For example, there were many words (16 or 17 other words) that Paul could have used to describe “homosexuality”, but he doesn’t use any of them. Rather, he chooses a word that he has coined to describe a practice or activity–a word that no one really knows with 100% certainty what it means.

        John, you are like a self-taught attorney–one who can readily quote laws, verses, phrases, etc. from the Books of the Bible. But sometimes you seem to forget that we have greater access to understanding what God wants of us through prayer and the Holy Spirit.

        I look at Scripture and believe that we can learn a bit about God’s love and passion for us. However, I also look at how the Books of the Bible came to be. As you very well know, no one sat down and wrote the entire Bible. In fact, compiling Scripture was a political process; one with powerful men arguing over which pieces (passages, verses, laws, etc.) would be included and which would not be included.

        Scripture is not my “go to” when I want to know what God wants for me.

        Yesterday, I learned that a friend was out of food. He hadn’t told anyone. But he mentioned to me that he was hungry–that all he’d eaten for a couple of days was peanut butter sandwiches with water to drink. Turns out that the state had greatly reduced his social security benefits without warning. He found himself having to choose between paying rent/buying medicine or buying food. He couldn’t do it all.

        So, yesterday morning I got up and went to the grocery store. I bought him enough food that should last for an entire month–maybe longer. I needed the money I spent on his groceries to pay some of my own bills. But I just couldn’t sit by and have my friend go hungry.

        It wasn’t Scripture that moved me to do this, it was God’s hand that moved me. He let me know that everything would work out. He told me not to worry about my own bills, that my friend’s needs had to come first. And I listened.

        I spent just over $350 on food for him yesterday. If God told me again to do the same thing, I wouldn’t hesitate.

        Do you believe that I’m being led by Satan in doing this? Am I being misled? Or is God using me to help someone?

        This isn’t the first time I’ve done this. There is someone else who I know who is too sick to work, but has no income from any government program, such as social security. I regularly take him to the grocery store and say to him, “Get a buggy and get anything you need.”

        Again, I believe that God is guiding me.

        If, as you say, I’m a sinner and God won’t hear my prayers, why would God lead me to do these (and many other) things?

        • Tom Cogburn says:

          One additional bit of information… You know my friend that I told you about–the one who I purchased $350 in groceries for yesterday? I was worried about paying some of my bills, but God let me know that it would work out–that I needed to go ahead and help him. Well, I was working on my bills today and discovered to my absolute surprise that one of my credit cards that I had intended on paying off (which, as of yesterday had a balance of $800) actually had a pay-off balance of $500!! That’s a full $300 less than what I expected to pay this month–almost making up for the money I spent on my friend yesterday!
          Call it what you want, John, it’s small things like this that make be believe that God watches out for us–even us “sinners” as you so enjoy calling me.
          I’m sure someone could pick all of this apart and simply say it’s bad accounting on my part or nothing more than coincidence. But the concern that I had about laying out so much money for his groceries weighed on me. I wasn’t sure how I was going to make everything work out. But God told me to go ahead and do it–that He would work things out.

          • johnmcglone says:

            God blesses the just and the unjust, bad thinking to assume that God is not going to condemn you for being a homosexual. Repent of all your sin!

        • johnmcglone says:

          I will have to respond to this later very busy, remind me if I forget! Thanks.

  22. David says:

    I’m curious. I would love to join your ministry and preach the gospel to the world. However, I just don’t know that I have enough hate in my heart to speak out and tell everyone that they are evil sinners. It’s probably because I’ve wasted too much of my life going to churches where they preach that “God so loved the world” instead of “God needs you to go out and yell at evil.”

    Can you help me overcome my natural loving heart and be filled with good old fashioned fire and brimstone? I’ve been reading your website and following your travels, please help me to care less about people and more about telling them they are evil.

    Thank you for doing God’s work and smiting the unworthy.

    • johnmcglone says:

      The God of the Bible says your heart is exceedingly sinful, who can know how much? Sinners are not welcome to join our ministry but to come to the cross of Jesus and be converted by the mercy of God. Stop your mockeries mocker God is not happy with you!

  23. Karl Marx says:

    You’re going to hell just you wait lol (I know you’re going to respond by saying I will go to hell because of Jesus and whatever)
    The Bible is fake. There is no god, he is a concept you bigots use to displace your intolerant ideas and opinions into a physical, blamable thing.
    Tell me honestly John. Do you believe homosexuality is a bad thing and why? I want your honest reasoning. I do not care what god says. Tell me what you think, acting independent from your diety.

    John

    • johnmcglone says:

      Wrong sinner. You will give an account to Jesus for every time you suppressed the truth of Him. Repent or perish everyone of you!

  24. Jay says:

    John
    This is tragic. Your daughter lives in a house on fire but the consequences aren’t just physical death, they’re unending death. Having a love for the lost is the worst when it’s our own loved ones. In the end, there will be no more tears and we’ll fully grasp the perfect justice of our thrice Holy God. Until that day, do what He’s commanded. Speak the truth boldly and pray without ceasing. You have my prayers.

  25. Mordecai says:

    “Is truth relative or absolute?”

    First off, that’s too broad of a question, in my opinion because truth can be relative or absolute depending on the specifics.

    Is truth relative when it comes to philosophies and religious or non-religious beliefs? Yes. Everyone is right in their own mind. While you think what your bible says is absolute, I think it’s ridiculous… and vice versa with my atheism.

    Is truth relative when it comes to man-made laws and the justice system? Of course, it is! Because we’re making them up based on the system of government and who is in control of that government.

    Is truth relative when it comes to science? It depends!

    Are you talking about things like gravity or the speed of light or other scientific topics that are universal laws? That science is absolute. Any science that has so much evidence and ways to test and prove exactly how it works is science that is absolute. Evolution may be called a theory, but it may as well be a law with the amount of evidence that exist for it.

    Stuff like string theory? Parallel universes? Those sort of ideas? Sure there a tidbit of evidence here and there, but it is so vague, you may as well be talking about the existence or non-existence of god. Science like that is relative.

    Is truth relative or absolute in other situations? It depends on the situation.

    Sooo… asking me whether truth is relative or absolute should have some specifics applied to it.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Yes, a very broad question indeed. However, you act like your truths are knowable, so I am here to find out why. Thanks. How did you come to your arbitrary standards and how do you prove them to be absolutely true?

  26. Mordecai says:

    Which truths are you speaking of?

    Are you talking about my morals? Are you talking about science? Are you talking about government? You have to be specific.

  27. Mordecai says:

    You can’t prove a moral to be an absolute truth because it based on how you’ve lived, what you’ve experienced, and what you believe in based on those things.

    I already explained this in a previous post. Morality is based on knowing, researching, and experiencing suffering and having compassion. It’s up to you whether it not you recognize suffering and up to you whether or not you have compassion for that suffering.

    That compassion could be identified as you showing sympathy, pity, taking action against, protecting others and yourself from that suffering.

    Example:
    Have you witnessed someone being killed? Know of someone being killed? Almost been killed yourself? I recognize it as a form of suffering and therefore, don’t want it to happen to me or to anyone else. Are there exceptions? Sure. I’m not going to get into that right now.

    This is a standard that I believe to be true.

    Legal moralism is a great idea, but it doesn’t please everyone because everyone is different… it just so happens that many peoples’ morals, despite the diversity, happen to coincide. Because of that, laws are made that satisfy the majority.

    What standard is true? It’s not about what’s true, it’s about what is right.

    You use your bible to direct your morality, I use my own mind.

    “Morality is doing what is right regardless of what you’re told… Religion is doing what you’re told regardless of what is right.”

    Any more questions?

    • johnmcglone says:

      Yes, you clearly assert your moral relative truth. Are you sure that is absolutely correct?

      • Mordecai says:

        I’m sure it’s absolutely relative. It’s correct to me.

        • johnmcglone says:

          Your standard is self refuting.

          ab·so·lute
          ˈabsəˌlo͞ot,ˌabsəˈlo͞ot/Submit
          adjective
          1. not qualified or diminished in any way; total.
          “absolute secrecy”
          synonyms:complete, total, utter, out-and-out, outright, entire, perfect, pure, decided; More

          2. viewed or existing independently and not in relation to other things; not relative or comparative.
          “absolute moral standards”
          synonyms:universal, fixed, independent, nonrelative, nonvariable, absolutist
          “absolute moral standards”
          noun
          1.PHILOSOPHY
          a value or principle that is regarded as universally valid or that may be viewed without relation to other things.
          “good and evil are presented as absolutes”

    • johnmcglone says:

      Your wrote, “Have you witnessed someone being killed? Know of someone being killed? Almost been killed yourself? I recognize it as a form of suffering and therefore, don’t want it to happen to me or to anyone else. Are there exceptions? Sure. I’m not going to get into that right now.

      This is a standard that I believe to be true.

      Yes, to all three questions. Now, with that in mind if you don’t want tiny babies to be killed according to your standard why aren’t you doing something to protect them?
      http://www.abortionno.org

      • Mordecai says:

        Haha… tiny babies.

        This is something that I’ve thought about for a long time and considered as many factors as I could to come to the most logical and justified decision. Again, this decision is relative.

        If you’ve ever researched abortion – they aren’t “tiny babies”. 88% of the time, when an abortion occurs, it is within the first 12 weeks of the beginning of the pregnancy. Within those 12 weeks, the fetus has barely developed.

        Abortions occur for a number of reasons. If I was going to be born with a life threatening disability in which I was probably going to suffer and die within a short amount of time after birth anyway… you know what, I think I’d have rather not existed at all in the first place. I don’t want to be conscience of that!

        What about economic issues and being born into a life of poverty? That child will likely grow up only to reproduce more children into poverty.

        What if the pregnancy is or will kill the mother? In many of those situations, it’s likely it will kill the mother and the baby.

        There are numerous situations in which abortion is a better option rather than carrying a baby to full-term, birthing the child, and then that child greatly suffer.

        If I were the “tiny baby”, as you put it, and we’re going to live a life of suffering, I’d rather not exist at all.

        You have your reasons that make you think abortion is wrong. Guess what? I have my reasons in which I think abortion is acceptable in most situations. Both of our reasons are relative.

        • johnmcglone says:

          You didn’t look at the website did you? The video and photographic evidence is irrefutable.

          • Mordecai says:

            Oh, I saw your website. I’ve seen this website before. Sorry, but what you’re showing me is not convincing.

            I’ve already done my research on this. I went through college learning about the human body and some medical science. I’ve visited a few abortion clinics in that time.

            I already know what’s true and what’s not. What your showing me is propaganda. You should take an Anatomy and Physiology class… maybe just a biology class.

            That website is just ridiculous.

          • Mordecai says:

            Also, you didn’t answer any of my questions.

            What if you were going to be born deformed and mostly unable to function as you are able to now? Do you want to live like that? How would you feel if you had parents that KNEW that you’d be born like that, yet instead of ending the pregnancy early – before you were conscience of your existence – chose to continue the pregnancy and make you live that life. In my opinion, that abusive.

            What if you were going to born only to live a life of poverty where you would starve on a regular basis, not knowing where you’d live next or if you’d be living in a home at all? How would you feel if your parents knew that you’d live a life like this, yet carried you into this world anyway?

            What if your mother was raped? Instead of terminating the pregnancy early, she was forced to carry and birth you knowing that your “father” forced himself into her to create you. I wouldn’t want to live to know that, would you?

            What if the pregnancy was going to kill the mother and most likely the baby because of complications? Would you make a woman possibly die just because of your beliefs?

            You should answer my questions, because I’ve answered plenty of yours.

          • johnmcglone says:

            Here are my answers to your questions, it was right there all along!
            You wrote:
            What if you were going to born only to live a life of poverty where you would starve on a regular basis, not knowing where you’d live next or if you’d be living in a home at all? How would you feel if your parents knew that you’d live a life like this, yet carried you into this world anyway?
            NOT SURE

            What if your mother was raped? Instead of terminating the pregnancy early, she was forced to carry and birth you knowing that your “father” forced himself into her to create you. I wouldn’t want to live to know that, would you?
            YES, I want life

            What if the pregnancy was going to kill the mother and most likely the baby because of complications? Would you make a woman possibly die just because of your beliefs?
            MAKE HER? I believe in free will. It used to be that mother’s would die so their babies would live. But your selfish generation would never even think of the possibility of that noble sacrifice.
            http://www.abortionno.org

          • Mordecai says:

            …still waiting.

          • johnmcglone says:

            here is an example where I answered your questions, then you didn’t like my answers:
            “Yes, to all three questions. Now, with that in mind if you don’t want tiny babies to be killed according to your standard why aren’t you doing something to protect them?
            http://www.abortionno.org

          • Mordecai says:

            I don’t want a website to answer me. I want you to answer me.

          • johnmcglone says:

            The answers are right there for you to see!

          • Mordecai says:

            I don’t want a websit to answer me. I want YOU to answer me. Answer me on this forum. Don’t direct me to some website. I already told you what I thought of it. I want you to answer me. I took time to answer your questions and you direct me to some website? That’s not what I want.

  28. Dianna says:

    I have read this through more than once and I find myself praying that Gina will not skim over those scriptures but be drawn back to them and feel godly sorrow for her sin. I want the truth to penetrate her being so that conviction grips her and she cannot do anything but repent add follow Christ.

    I want this as much as I want it for my own unsaved loved ones. I will continue to pray for Gina’s soul.

    God bless you brother.

    P.s. There are many who responded with their “opinion” to this blog. Opinions are worthless. It is only God’s Word that matters.

  29. MrsOrea says:

    I have read this through more than once and I find myself praying that Gina will not skim over those scriptures but be drawn back to them and feel godly sorrow for her sin. I want the truth to penetrate her being so that conviction grips her and she cannot do anything but repent add follow Christ.

    I want this as much as I want it for my own unsaved loved ones. I will continue to pray for Gina’s soul.

    God bless you brother.

    P.s. There are many who responded with their “opinion” to this blog. Opinions are worthless. It is only God’s Word that matters.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Very true sister! Let God be true and EVERY man a LIAR! Thanks so much for your prayers for her and us! God bless the Oreas!

  30. Mordecai says:

    Well, John, thanks for answering my questions.

    Anything you want to ask me now?

    • johnmcglone says:

      What proof do you have that the God of the Bible does not exist?

      • Mordecai says:

        I don’t have proof that God doesn’t exist. I think I already explained this in a previous post.

        • johnmcglone says:

          I may have, sorry about that. I have alot of people asking me different things on the blog, YT, FB, etc.

          Let me try a different question: IF you died today and stood before Jesus Christ would you be guilty or innocent of sin?

          • Mordecai says:

            I suppose by biblical standards, I would be guilty. I guess I’ll find out when I die.

          • johnmcglone says:

            B I N G O and Bingo was his name O! Well, there you have it. Guilty before Jesus who taught this very hard teaching, let’s see if you have a mind and heart to hear it:

            Mar 9:43-48 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

            IF eternal misery described over and again by Jesus is real then you need to fear God and flee His wrath and seek His mercy while you have breath.

          • Mordecai says:

            OooOoooh! So scary!

            Just because I said I would be guilty of sin by your biblical standards doesn’t mean I have or will ever fear it or believe in it for that matter. There’s thousands of gods that have been made up and thousands of religions and more than just one “holy book”. For all you know, we could be reincarnated and Hinduism is the true religion and BOTH of us are wrong in how we believe.

            Sorry – your scripture doesn’t phase me. If you really want me to believe, then I need demonstrable proof of god.

          • johnmcglone says:

            Jesus already demonstrated His Power of life and death over 2000 years ago and mankind still mocks Him. He healed people from lepersy, raised people from the dead. Over 500 disciples who were eyewitnesses of the the resurrection and ascension of Christ, most of them went through torturous deaths because of it. Yet, I offer that ‘proof’ and you will just say the same nonsense…that’s not proof it’s from the Bible

            Your main problem is that you have no respect for of fear of the only true and living God. Your Creator commands you to humble yourself, confess your sin to Him, and seek Him while He may be found. Otherwise you are going to the fire…forever.

          • Mordecai says:

            You say that 500 people witnessed Jesus’ resurrection? WOW – that’s a lot!

            Did you know that 1000’s of people have witnessed Bigfoot? And Aliens? They’ve even written books about it. That’s more convincing than a old book from the bronze age that been rewritten hundreds of times since it was put together.

            When I say “demonstrable proof”, I don’t want you to tell me a story out of an old book. If your god is so real, then pray and ask that he magically appear in front of me and tell me to stop being an atheist. That’s not so hard is it? God is all-powerful, correct?

            You can’t give me demonstrable proof of your god because your god doesn’t exist. All you’ve got is an old book that was written by various people who didn’t understand their existence and the world around them and so they made stories up to satisfy and ground those misunderstandings so that they could go on with their lives.

            “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
            Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
            Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
            Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
            -Epicurus

          • johnmcglone says:

            You don’t read and believe what ‘books’ say to you? How can you know if any history of the world is true? Is history a science, art, or both?

            The Epistemologies of History, Science, and the Law 1
            “How do we know what we know?” is both a generic philosophical question, and an empirical question that ought to be raised every time we acquire new knowledge—especially if the knowledge is spoon-fed to us. Yet it is a question seldom asked, perhaps because answering it seems like too much trouble. I have found, though, that to habitually ask this question is both intellectually liberating, and
            a necessary precondition to the attainment of real knowledge and understanding. When we do seek to validate our knowledge by basing it on evidence and rational argumentation,we have two, or perhaps three ready made epistemological modes to turn to: the scientific, the legal, and the historical. All of these modes of knowing, or of persuading, are like all human endeavors subject both to self-delusion and institutional corruption, but because they are public methodologies they also incorporate self-corrective mechanisms that usually keep them from straying too far off course.

  31. Mordecai says:

    I do think it’s funny that you called my generation selfish when you don’t even know what generation I belong to.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Your generation applies to everyone that you would consider to be of your ‘age’.

      • Mordecai says:

        But what if I’m just as old as you are? You’d be calling yourself selfish by saying that my generation is selfish. Like I said, you don’t even know what generation I belong to.

        • johnmcglone says:

          This I know…I was born in 1960 my generation and the one before it were very wicked. Every generation after has been more and more wicked as I see this bridge of culture and religious overthrow in our country by the homosexuals, communists, racists, etc. So, as I think you can understand every generation has been wicked.

  32. Mordecai says:

    On the same topic as abortion…

    So, you have all of these babies getting aborted… they die, and I assume by your beliefs, they go to heaven. Isn’t that what you want for everyone in the first place? Why get so upset about it when you know they are going to “live with Jesus”?

    • johnmcglone says:

      God has said: 1. children are a blessing from Him 2. We should not kill I am upset that people are destroying God’s creatures He has made like they would a letter in a shredder. They have no fear of God, like you have none. They are on their way to eternal misery, like you are. I hope that helps.

      • Mordecai says:

        So, you’re saying aborted fetus’ souls go to hell?

        • johnmcglone says:

          No, I am not saying that. The Bible talks about King David losing a baby due to his sin. He was mourning for the son until it died. Then he got up, washed, and rejoiced that he knew that the baby was in the presence of God.

          • Mordecai says:

            so the fetus’ souls do go to heaven?

          • johnmcglone says:

            yes, GLORY!

          • Mordecai says:

            You really aren’t giving me a straight answer.

          • Mordecai says:

            So, if they go to heaven, how are they in misery?

            I think if I were a fetus that was aborted and got to skip the “living the real world” part to be in heaven, I’d appreciate being aborted. So, back to the original question – why get so huffy-puffy about abortion if they get to be in heaven with Jesus?

  33. Derek says:

    Hi, John. The first thing I want to say is that I thank you for your ministry; it is very important that Christians do point out sins happening in the lives of other believers, and that we are to continue to encourage and promote a lifestyle which adheres to the teachings of Christ. There are several questions I would like to ask of you.

    1. I am wondering if there is anybody in your life you are accountable to. I can understand that you have God the Father as your accountability, but just like Paul was to Timothy, we also need mentors.

    2. I am curious to know what your thoughts are on relational discipleship and relational evangelism. This is what Christ employed, is it not? The disciples lived with Christ, ate with Christ, and Christ got to know His disciples. Do you believe that in order for true discipleship and true evangelism to be effective, that one should spend time in relationship? If you disagree with developing relationships with others, I would love to know which Scriptures you are using, and your commentary on those passages.

    Blessings.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Thanks for your comment Derek. Let me answer your great questions.
      1. In regards to my accountability I am accountable to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Then I have five men of God that are older that I in: faith, naturally, maturity in holiness than I. I consult with them regularly in fact I just spoke with one this morning on the subjects of: words and behavior in the open air, confessed a public sin that I believe I did, get prayers for a court case, and to get encouragement. These men have 30-43 years individually in the faith. I often regularly interact with believers of all maturities on FB, YT, Twitter, etc. to test what I and they believe in light of God’s Word and Spirit to enjoy the fruit of good sound doctrine.
      1 Tim 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

      2. I will answer that Jesus hung out with sinners to call them to repentance. I do that as well. Jesus never approved of their sin but exposed it, even the disciples. But, in regards to relational evangelism I will start with the Bible’s thoughts on being a friend of the world.

      Jam 4:4-10 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
      Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

      Now should we be friendly? Sure up to a point, but when will we compromise? For example, say a ‘friend’ you are trying to win consistently takes God’s name in vain, yet you say nothing? Witness is a judicial term, think about that. One day in God’s court, we will all give an account of HOW and what we said to the sinners. But, doesn’t God’s Word say, bad company corrupts good character? When do we actually share the Gospel? At what point are we comfortable enough to share? My supposition is that the longer and deeper the relations we have without having talked about spiritual things the harder it will be to bring them up. Here is a blog I did on the subject: http://www.jesuspreacher.com/evangelizing-family-members-and-old-friends/

      The Bible says we will be hated as Jesus was for telling them the doctrines He taught and His commands for all of mankind. Well, God’s Word sure does prove itself to be true over and again. When I started witnessing to my family, friends, etc when I was converted 21 years ago, I got the immediate coldness, if I pushed it then animosity, and ultimately no relations. We are called to warn the wicked twice, I now look back and wish I had understood that then. Maybe I would have more relations with them in a natural sense. But, this I know, their blood is not on my hands. Ez 3.

      • Derek says:

        Thank you so much for replying to me, John. Your heart for reaching the lost is quite evident in your responses, and that is always encouraging.

        I just wanted to take the time to expand on the term “Relational evangelism.” The idea behind relational evangelism is to get to know people, and through developing a relationship with others, that person will see Christ through what the Christian does. Now, how do we do this while still standing firm to the truth of Christ? By not participating in the sins of those people. For instance, the person you are witnessing to is drinking a beer. They offer a beer to you, but you politely say no, and then express why you will not drink. You then encourage them to stop drinking with however the Spirit tells you to communicate this.

        The point is, we can still befriend sinners, hate their actions, and express it in such a way which does not push them away from receiving God’s truth. I am a living, breathing, example of relational evangelism. I had friends who told me they had every right to stone me because I was identifying as a homosexual. This pushed me away. Then I met people who hated my sin, but encouraged me to go to Bible studies, to go to church with them, and so on. If it was not for those who actually spent the time to develop a relationship with me, I never would have developed a relationship with God the Father. With His son. I never would have allowed the Spirit to change me from the inside out. I no longer identify as a homosexual; I identify as a Christian. The Bible tells me that I am forgiven, because I have repented. The Bible tells me that I am adopted into God’s family (Eph. 1:5), making me a child of God (Jn. 1:12). Again, if it had not have been for those Christians who wanted to develop a relationship with me, I would still be dead in sin. But today, I proclaim I have been made alive in Christ (Eph. 2:1-10).

        That, John, is the best form of discipleship and evangelism. God created us for relationship, not to push people away who need Him.

        • johnmcglone says:

          Derek, did you read the link that I gave you? I ask that as it seems if you did you weren’t understanding or accepting the Biblical information therein. I do not despise establishing relations with sinners except as I have already outlined the biblical cautions I mentioned already. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this other blog on open air preaching:

          http://www.jesuspreacher.com/openairpreaching/

          Lastly, I would say that a street preacher may have been a plow, you heard some hard hellfire and brimstone maybe at a PRIDE event…you met a friend who was a Christian who threw some seeds in the ground that was plowed…you went to their church and got some water of the Seed of the Good News that you could repent and receive forgiveness from Jesus…then when you drew near to God and confessed and asked properly…God granted the increase…sent the Holy Ghost, and now you are walking according to Him, hallelujah.

  34. Mordecai says:

    Anymore questions? Or would you like me to ask you a question now?

  35. Mordecai says:

    Aw – come on! I like chit-chatting! Ask me another question!

    Alright – here’s a question for you:

    How do you know that your beliefs are the right beliefs? How do you know that your god is the true god?

    I would like an answer that is not “because the Bible says so”. There are many religions and holy books that claim that they are true and that their god/gods are the truth… why haven’t you chosen one of those?

    Hinduism is one of the oldest religions – why not that? Or Norse or Greek religions? How do you know that Odin or Zeus is not the true god that you should follow.

    Why Yahweh and the Bible?

    • johnmcglone says:

      I am 57 years old, and lived as a sinner rejecting Jesus Christ for at least 23 of those years. The first 13 years of my life, I think I was innocent of: the law, God’s Word, etc and would have been ushered into the Kingdom if I had died. But, when I began to knowingly and willingly sin against the law of God written on my heart, I can under condemnation. The Holy Spirit came to me in 1996 and after nine months of conviction by Him about those sins, I confessed and was born again of the Holy Spirit. Here is more of my testimony: http://www.jesuspreacher.com/my-testimony/

      In regards to other religions, TRUTH is knowable. Jesus Christ made the claim that He was; the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no one would enter the Kingdom of God except through Him. John 14:6 This statement He made excludes, Budda, Muhammed, and all other false heathen religions. In Exodus 20 God hath said, “You will have NO other gods before me.” 2nd commandment, “You will not bow down to images to worship Me.” The Bible calls that idolatry and condemns it. So, think of any religion where they pray to statues or pictures; Roman Catholics, Hindus, Buddists, Muslims, etc. You can even make up an image of God in your own head/heart that does’t line up with the Bible. All of these religious behaviors, the God of the Bible condemns it.

      So, why YHWH? He sent forth His Son Jesus from heaven to die for our sin on the cross. Forgiveness is only offered there, you must humble yourself and come to His love.

      • Mordecai says:

        But other religions do he exact same thing – they claim that they are the truth and condemn all other religions. Based on other religions’ standards you are going to the “hell” that that religion made up to scare others into believing.

        If other religions do exactly what your’s does just with a different storyline, how is your any more or less real or true than the others?

        You basically told me “because the Bible says so”. When someone says “how do I know that gravity is true?” – I know – not just because a science book told me, but because I can test it myself on whether it is true or false.

        So, again, why do you believe in God and trust in the Bible? And, again, giving me scripture is saying “because the Bible says so.” Why do you believe it to be true outside of what the Bible tells you? When I hear Christians tell me scripture as their reasoning for believing… it’s almost as if they’re not thinking for themselves.

        I’m not asking this stuff so you can proselytize to me. I’m asking these questions simply to understand your reasoning for believing, in my opinion, the unbelievable. Your beliefs, to me, are no different than reading a fantasy novel with magic, monsters, a villain, and a hero. Anyone can write a book. Anyone can claim their book to be holy. How do you know that your book isn’t just another fantasy novel? Gilgamesh is a book that has strikingly similar stories that the Bible has, and the Epic of Gilgamesh is an older book.

        • johnmcglone says:

          Actually they do not, show me from their writings what you are asserting they say the same thing. Thank you.

          • Mordecai says:

            The Quran does for Islam.

            Here is a website,
            http://thewaytotruth.org/theholyquran/wordofgod.html
            that claims it up front and even provides passages from the book, just like you do with your bible.

            Joseph Smith (founder of the Mormons) claimed to have discovered a new Christianity with his golden tablets that he found in Missouri. He wrote the Book of Mormon.

            Scientology claims to be true… here’s a website:
            http://www.whatisscientology.org/
            Scroll a little way down and it says “The Study of Truth”

            The Bhagavad Gita of the Hindus says this:
            “Those who continuously practice what I preach they will be freed from Karma.” 3.31
            and
            “But those who, out of envy, disregard these teachings and do not practice them regularly, are to be considered bereft of all knowledge, befooled, and doomed to ignorance and bondage.”

            Heck – atheism may not have a holy book because we don’t believe in deities or the supernatural, but we claim that what we believe (no gods exist at all) is true. It may only be written down by various atheist authors of different books, but it a general conclusion that you’re all wrong and there’s no gods to believe in.

            So… once again, I ask:
            If other religions do exactly what your’s does just with a different storyline, how is your any more or less real or true than the others?

          • johnmcglone says:

            None of those ‘religions’ have the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ for their sin. Muslims deny Jesus is the Savior, Mormons claim Jesus is an angel, Scientology…never claims that Jesus is the ONLY way, Hindus worship millions of gods violating the idol worship principle. Your bald assertions about my perfect religion and all these others are negated by the ‘facts’ that you copy and pasted.
            Jesus is the blood sacrifice that came alive after he was dead, and was seen, touched, ect. You have mocked this, you have been warned. I only am required to warn you twice.

          • Mordecai says:

            Also, again, why do you believe in God and trust in the Bible? And, again, giving me scripture is saying “because the Bible says so.” Why do you believe it to be true outside of what the Bible tells you?

          • johnmcglone says:

            Already answered in multiple ways, and multiple times. Go back and review my answers until you get it.

          • Mordecai says:

            Man, you really don’t understand my question do you?

            HOW do you know that the Bible and god are true WITHOUT the Bible telling that it is the truth?

            I understand that in the Bible Jesus sacrified himself… I understand that in the Bible it says it’s the one true religion… but HOW do you know that it is true WITHOUT the Bible telling you that it is true?

          • johnmcglone says:

            Ahhh, I get it sorry for the confusion. MY EXPERIENCE! As I already explained his conviction, convincing, my concern for my soul, fleeing the wrath of God and to the Savior. Doing that changed my persona! I became NEW, no longer getting drunk and whoring around. I stopped smoking, cursing, etc. I love to read the Bible, pray for sinners like you, preach,and look forward to His soon return where the saints will inherit what NONE of us deserve. But, all sinners will burn forever because that is what we all deserve, GOD’S JUSTICE!!!

            All during that 8-9 months I had NO Bible and NO Christian trying to witness to me in person.

          • Mordecai says:

            There we go! That’s what I was trying to get out of you!

            Thanks for your answer.

            Do you think that you could have achieved this goal simply from your own intrinsic motivation, your own drive to become better, and not with the Bible and Jesus as your motivator?

          • johnmcglone says:

            You have some very simple misunderstandings of the Christian faith in your questions. I will address them, then answer>
            1.No one can ‘achieve’ salvation’ without the Holy Ghost participating.
            2. No one can be good enough to please God on what they do ‘better’.
            3. His justice demands complete arbitration of every sin you have ever done. Things done in darkness, word badly spoken, evil thoughts, evil motives.
            4. He only offers that complete arbitration at the cross of Jesus, or the Judgment Seat of Jesus.

            >I loved my sin! I told the Holy Ghost, that I couldn’t do what He was asking because I loved the things that God hates.
            > When I finally made my confession to God, I didn’t plan it. At 6am in the morning on Aug 3, 1996, I left my girlfriend in our bedroom, walked down the hallway and fell on my face crying out to God for forgiveness for hours, begging Jesus to be my Lord and Savior. I didn’t get up until the Holy Ghost that had been speaking to me all those months assured me the Father had forgiven me through the Son. Did you check my testimony page?

  36. Mordecai says:

    By my question, what I meant by achieving your goal, I did not mean “goal” as in coming to god.

    I’ll rephrase it:
    Do you think that you could have become a better person (not drinking, not smoking, not cursing, not whoring around, etc.) simply by choosing to do so on your own – through your own will?

    From the way you tell your testimony, it seems as if you’d be completely helpless and have no control over your bad habits if you hadn’t come to Jesus.

    I used to do stupid things that would harm myself also, like smoking, but I simply chose to quit doing it from my own will. I had to ween myself off of cigarettes, but after a couple of months… I simply lost the desire to do so. When I come to the conclusion that something is harmful, either through experience or evidence, I simply decide to stop doing it. The motivation to do so was intrinsic.

    • johnmcglone says:

      Oh, I agree that my freewill is involved. But, to stop desiring sin, or having the power to overcome temptations hourly, daily, weekly, etc is found by complete confession and being born again of the Holy Spirit.

      Rom 8:13-14 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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